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Thats tooooo much Vairamuthu

Topic started by vayatherichal (@ spider-wo082.proxy.aol.com) on Mon Jul 26 19:51:35 EDT 1999.
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sameebathil Vairamuthuvin pirandha naaLai munnittu
chennai vanoli nilaiayathin FM alai oru sirappu nigazhchikku aerpadu seidhirindhadhu. Thalaippu
'thamizhukku Vairamuthuvendra peiyar'.
Kavignar Bharathidhasanin paadalukku, tamizhukku
idhu oru perutha avamaanam. Thamizhai kaasukkaaga
aangila paduthum, 'viyarvai' pondra varthagalai ubayogithu naatha paduthum oru kavignarai thamizhukku inaiyaaga oppittadhu miga periya kodumai. Indha nigazhchikku Vairamuthu othukondadhu indha kavignarin 'thannadakkathai' kaanbikkiradhu. mazhakkalathin natchathirangalai pol ivar avappodu nalla paadalai ezhudhaalam aanal adharkkaaga indha oppeettal migavum adheegam. engae poi kondirkkirom??Indru
'thamizhukku vairamuthvendra peiyar' naalai
Pazhani bharathikku Mahakavi pattama??

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• From: Raja Manickam (@ 147.126.41.66) on: Mon Aug 9 23:02:06 EDT 1999
  
  How can All India Radio, can do such a disservice to Tamil language by promoting a cinema song writer and compare him with a language which was developed over several thousand years by the poets like Kambar, Valluvar, Nakkirar, etc, etc, who were never given any praise like this? VM can arrange such a function and arrange for this and even greater title for himself but the Government Organization should not be a part of creating a history like this. After another hundred years, what the future generation will think about the standard of tamil now?
  
  
• From: oru_saamanya_Thamizhan (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com) on: Tue Aug 10 13:46:56 EDT 1999
  
  However great a poet is - be it, VaLLuvar, Kambar, or ILango - none of them, were compared to the language itself, to which they had rendered great service. That being the case, I'm surprised that VM is called "Thamizh". Agreed, he is a talented lyricist - but, that doesn't mean that he is Thamizh. This is a great disgrace to our beloved language. Yedhu yedhukko poraattam nadathura Thamizh Naattila, idhukku oru poraattam nadatha koodaadha appadinnu ninaikkum podhu onnu thonudhu - if we show our opposition to such nonsense, then that will only amount to increase the importance given to VM and the people who are comparing him with Thamizh and this news.
  
  
• From: bb (@ inehou-pxy04.compaq.com) on: Tue Aug 10 14:23:13 EDT 1999
  
  "isai alias ilayaraaja"nnu pOtta maadhiri thaan, "VM alias thamizh".
  
  
• From: vimal (@ enws781.eas.asu.edu) on: Tue Aug 10 14:55:55 EDT 1999
  
  Now bb, you are inviting trouble. Comparing these two personalities in their respective fields, any sane man would say where they stand. Your esteem has plummetted in my mind.
  
  
• From: bb (@ inehou-pxy04.compaq.com) on: Tue Aug 10 15:03:12 EDT 1999
  
  vimal:-)) i stand by what i say. i detest both the comparisons, inspite of the greatness of both of them in their fields.
  
  
• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Tue Aug 10 17:41:23 EDT 1999
  
  cases of possible interest (?!?):
  
  (1) IR is great. music is not.
  (2) music is great. IR is not.
  (3) thamizh is great. VM is not.
  (4) VM is great. thamizh is not.
  (5) music is great. thamizh is not.
  (6) thamizh is great. music is not.
  
  other combinations are of no relevance to this DF :-))
  
  with these six combinations allowed in the DF, find the set of combinations from which one can consistently infer that "IR is music" and another set of combinations from which one can consistently infer that "VM is thamizh". Also find the set from which one could consistently infer that "music is NOT thamizh" and "thamizh is NOT music". Also what is the cardinal number of each set? Can you minimize them?
  
  whoever solves this problem get the title "______ is jobless" :-)))
  
  
• From: thathuvavaathi (@ 207.247.192.251) on: Tue Aug 10 17:59:42 EDT 1999
  
  solve panravangalukku title sari. indha question-a set panninavangalukku enna title kodukkalaam ? ;-))))
  
  
• From: SM (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com) on: Tue Aug 10 18:26:14 EDT 1999
  
  bb,
  
  I agree with you partly. IMO, calling IR as music is not correct. But, your statement seems to be like 'since IR is compared with music, comparing VM with Thamizh is not wrong' - of course, your reply to Vimal has cleared that. But, IR's contribution to music is much much more than VM's contribution to Thamizh.
  
  
• From: Thamizhan (@ bkj-cache81.jaring.my) on: Tue Aug 10 21:14:41 EDT 1999
  
  Another opinion:
  
  We set different standards for music and Thamizh. Music is for enjoyment and satisfaction. Our love for Thamizh is much more than that.
  
  Thamizhai palippathu thaaiyai palippathupoal allavaa?
  
  
• From: bb (@ dialup-209.245.193.191.houston1.level3.net) on: Wed Aug 11 02:51:34 EDT 1999
  
  But, your statement seems to be like 'since IR is compared with music, comparing VM with Thamizh is not wrong'
  
  SM, i was the first one to respond in this thread, see my first posting, that should have clarified my opinion on VM long time ago:))) i was just pointing out that such excesses in eulogies are not limited to VM alone.
  
  
• From: Diwakar (@ 206.175.177.168) on: Wed Aug 11 18:11:52 EDT 1999
  
  Granted bb, you have a point. But do tow wrongs make a right ? :-)
  
  
• From: Diwakar (@ 206.175.177.168) on: Wed Aug 11 18:12:25 EDT 1999
  
  Oops! Read 'tow' as 'two'
  
  
• From: Thooyathamizhan (@ brf-cache10.jaring.my) on: Wed Aug 11 23:21:43 EDT 1999
  
  Unfortunately theose praising VM fall under this description:
  " Yaarai Engey Vaippathu Enru Yarukkum Theriyalai- Ada
  Andang Kakkaikalukkum Kuyilkalukkum Petham Theriyalai.
  Pereduthu Unmaiyai Cholli Pilaikka Mudiyalai-Ippo
  Beedikalukkum Oothu vathikkum Petham Theriyalai"
  There must be some vevasthai in bringing in VM for discussion. It only shows that there is a "varatchi" in chosing the right person to be glorified. I am sure VMs greatness has been self blown-that too into gigantic proportions.
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ hlr-13-107.tm.net.my) on: Sat Aug 14 03:51:26 EDT 1999
  
  Idho oru review about the radio program from listeners. Published in dhinamanikadhir. You need TMNEWS font to read this page. The link is
  http://www.xpres-net.com/dinamani/kadhir/kadir13.htm
  
  
  
• From: NaNbaN (@ 1cust204.tnt3.new-brunswick.nj.da.uu.net) on: Sat Aug 14 23:20:22 EDT 1999
  
  VM Sux!.
  
  NaNbaN
  
  
• From: Kadugu (@ brf-cache11.jaring.my) on: Sun Aug 15 22:30:00 EDT 1999
  
  Vairamuthu is a Thamizh viyabaari. He sells Tamil by the kilos. Youngsters may not agree. But those elders who have had the rare privilge of listening to excellent Tamil songs in the cinema would agree that Vairamuthu is just an average or below average cine lyricist, not even a poet! His time is good thats all.
  
  
• From: Kadugin Kaaram (@ brf-cache11.jaring.my) on: Tue Aug 17 22:53:21 EDT 1999
  
  There was a time when the directors, Producers and MDs were knowledged in Tamil literature. So they insisted on quality songs. These days ther are only far too many "Karuppu Thiraika" who are involved in making of cinemas. To them whatever comes from Vairamuthu (corrected and reviewed by Ponnumani)is "Thenamutham". WHo suffers? The entire new generation suffers. Bharathiyar quoted someone lamenting "mella Thamizh in saagum" VM is one of the killers of Tamil, yet he has the guts and spine to say "Ini naan thamizhukku choru poda pogiren" And Tamilnaadu-Senthamizhnaadu, Paarukulle nalla Naadu welcomes VM. Vazhga Tamizhagam
  
  

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