Topic started by Uthaman (@ 65.69.56.36) on Fri Jun 28 02:04:55 EDT 2002.
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Is there any uniquness about the song "Poomalaye Thol serava" from Pagal Nilavu. I think there is not a single pause in both saranam and pallavi. Either Janaki or IR contionously sing. I am not sure about this. Any other songs like this? We know about "Mannilindha kadhal". Even though it is said SPB sang continously he admitted they edited out the tiniest of breath he took in between.
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- From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204)
on: Wed Jul 3 03:10:35 EDT 2002
NagaS,
"Nee Daya Radha" in sindu bairavi is another song without ne BGM...infact if we listen to old songs u can find so many viruthams(but they might not come under songs category as viruthams dont follow a rhytm(thalam))
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.80.208)
on: Wed Jul 3 04:04:51 EDT 2002
"Unnai kanda pinbudhaan" - Sigaram... it has 2 versions .... one is by Chitra and the other by SPB himself...same lyrics but both are different tunes... simple melody with just the dolak in both the songs... no other instruments. gr8 work by the singers and the composer SPB.
- From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76)
on: Wed Jul 3 13:00:27 EDT 2002
ram: viruththams dont follow thALam? :-))) they do. in fact most viruththams have the adjective "chandha". if i am wrong, can you please provide a link to a viruththam that doesn't follow a thALam. thanks.
- From: K (@ 68.80.34.204)
on: Wed Jul 3 21:22:54 EDT 2002
Ithu Maargazhi Maadham from Prabdham!
- From: raj (@ 198.151.230.253)
on: Thu Jul 4 00:03:36 EDT 2002
no Nagas
Oru oorile Oru Raaja Kumaran was by SJ
but The Song Naan Porandhu Vandadhu is Definitely by KSC
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Thu Jul 4 01:29:11 EDT 2002
hihi:-)
Take thiruviLaiyaadal for instance...the virutham before song "Pazham nee appa"(Gyana pazhathai pizhindhu)that doesn't follow thalam right?....My understanding of virutham is based on the Classical Audio tapes which list a piece which elaborates a raga with aazhvaar paasuram or thiruvaasagam(in thamizh grammar Viruththam mite have a definite meaning...but I'm pretty positive that in a classivcal concert if u elaborate a raga this way that is called as viruththam)
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Thu Jul 4 03:01:08 EDT 2002
Ram,
Most of the kuzanthaip paadalkaL are of type viruththam and they say viruththam isaiyodu paada eetRathu (naan paadip paarththathillai ;-)
'KaNNan ennum mannan paerai sollach cholla'nnu oru pazaiya paattu irukku (KaNNadasan), athu oru perfect aasiriya viruththam-nnu en friend solvaar !
NagaS
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.79.163)
on: Thu Jul 4 03:20:00 EDT 2002
Saar!!!
ithu ethO kiNaru veta bhootham keLambara kathaiyaa irukku....hihi:-),NagaS...ennai vuttudunga...ethO ariya paiyan theriyaama sollitten...mannichudunga
- From: K (@ 68.80.34.204)
on: Sun Jul 7 21:26:22 EDT 2002
ThEdi Varum Deiva Sugam from Nimirndhu Nil - a very different tune even now!
- From: thiru (@ 63.169.243.18)
on: Mon Jul 8 17:14:00 EDT 2002
Nagas, thiruda thiruda soundtrack came well before nammavar...i think doesnt matter anyways.. lots of songs have no bgm.. i mentioned the one that came to my mind first...
I remember this song 'thamizhe naalum nee paadu'.. which is unique too.........
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Tue Jul 9 01:02:22 EDT 2002
thiru,
illai sir, I am sure nammavar came first !
NagaS
- From: Thiru (@ 63.169.243.18)
on: Tue Jul 9 09:32:39 EDT 2002
Nagas,
I'm sure that thiruda thiruda was 1993 and nammavar was 1994....both songs are unique in its own ways... so namma edhukku argue pannanum.....
thiru
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.45.161)
on: Thu Jul 11 01:03:27 EDT 2002
Paruvame Pudhiya
The entire song was dominated by sound of footsteps
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.56.168)
on: Thu Jul 11 16:49:18 EDT 2002
Siru ponmani asaiyum song from Kallukkul Eram.
It has so many "la" "zha" "lla" in the first stanza. It is little difficult to sing. But IR and SJ did a commendable job.
- From: PRASAD (@ 24.185.32.133)
on: Thu Jul 11 19:09:59 EDT 2002
Guys,
How about Thenpandiseemalyile from Nayagan. No background score in one of the versions.
'Ekantha Velai' from I think from Paasa paravaigal, will be like question and Answer. Unique and melodious too.
Some body give me the link of Porandhu Vandhathu of MayaBazaar Link. Very unique chorus songs handled with chorus.
Also Paadum Neram Ithuthan from Soora Samharam has excellent chorus utilization
- From: MM (@ 207.46.137.8)
on: Thu Jul 11 20:06:52 EDT 2002
Is the following true?
The song "oru naal podhuma" from Thiruvilaiyadal - the singer (acted by TS Balaiah?) has lyrics that goes: "Enakkinaiyaga darbaril evarum undo" and that part (or soon after) is sung in Darbar raagam. I believe the other two stanzas are also the same way with two other different raagas.
If true, I think it is very clever use of words+raagam. Any other songs like that (like in Sindhu bairavi or something?) where the lyric mentions the raaga and the song is sung in the same raaga?
- From: rags (@ 63.100.100.5)
on: Thu Jul 11 20:40:48 EDT 2002
MM, enna samayalo -Unnal mudiyum thambhi -whereever the raga is mentioned, it is sung in that ragam.
- From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220)
on: Thu Jul 11 20:47:02 EDT 2002
MM:
How about the line (in the same song):
isai kEtka ezhunthOdi varuvaarenRO
ezhunthOdi varuvaanenRO...........
ezhunthOdi........thOdi...........
"oru naaL pOthumaa was (is) a real gem - one of my my all-time favourite TFM songs composed by KVM and sung by Balamuralikrishna.
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.148)
on: Thu Jul 11 20:53:31 EDT 2002
MM,rags,GV,
Guess the earliest song of that kind was bt MKT ...the song goes like this "Vasantha ruthu mana"...a lot of ragas like Vasantha,Mohanam,kunthalavarali are mentioned and sung...other song is Athisaya Ragam..."Intharaga logathu chakkaravaaham"(although that part is in raga Mahathi it is very close to Chakaravaham)...and ofcourse the secong stanza about bairavi is set in Bhairavi
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Thu Jul 11 20:53:50 EDT 2002
MM, rags-
Song "sivaranjani" from film 'natchathiram' (star) - sripriya and ??
- From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220)
on: Thu Jul 11 20:54:43 EDT 2002
MM: The other raaga mentioned in the same song is:
kalaiyaatha mOgana suvai thaanenRO
mOgana suvai thaanenRO...............
mOganam..............................
What a song!!!
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.59.69)
on: Thu Jul 11 21:15:11 EDT 2002
In Sampoorna Ramayanam movie, Ravanan will sing a song in various Raagas.
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.148)
on: Thu Jul 11 22:28:08 EDT 2002
A typo in prev posting,
it is Indhira lOgathu chakravaaham"...sorry for the typo
- From: thiru (@ 63.169.243.18)
on: Fri Jul 12 09:42:28 EDT 2002
how about 'keeravani' - a karthik song... and 'azhaithal varuvale sriranjani' in jathi malli...
- From: thiru (@ 63.169.243.18)
on: Fri Jul 12 09:43:41 EDT 2002
'om namaha' from idhayathai thirudadhey will have the same background beat throughout the song which is quite unique.....
- From: MM (@ 207.46.137.8)
on: Fri Jul 12 13:34:55 EDT 2002
GV
Once you said the other lines, it just clicks in my memory how the tune goes. Great song indeed, isn't it?
Others,
Thx for sharing the other songs. Seems like there are quite a few - I thought this one was unique :-). But all these do show the creativity of our MDs, don't they?
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.45.107)
on: Wed Jul 17 18:51:16 EDT 2002
Ekantha velai song from Padum Paravigal.
In this male and female voice alternates so fast.
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Thu Jul 18 06:17:48 EDT 2002
Uthaman, in sampoorna raamaayana, it is like a question and answer type. It goes like this:
ques:kaalayil paadum raagam ethuvO
Ravana will sing the swara and finish it with the word 'poobaaLam' (in the same raaga)
maalayil paadum raagam ethuvO
... vasandha...
POrukku ugandha raagam
... ataana...
I don't think it can be considered as a song! But an interesting piece!
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Thu Jul 18 06:25:11 EDT 2002
I remember finally it ends up with the question:
Sivaperumaanukku ugandha raagam ethuvO
...KaambhOji...
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Thu Jul 18 07:19:35 EDT 2002
No ec.. the question from Mandodhari (acted by Sandhya) is like this: "kayilai nadhanai ungal gaanathaal kavarndha raagam..?"...
Answer: gggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... Kambodhi kambodhi kambodhi...
A master piece by Chidambaram S Jayaraman
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Thu Jul 18 09:16:26 EDT 2002
sorry, thanks subbu :-)
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.56.29)
on: Thu Jul 18 12:09:35 EDT 2002
Anybody knows the complete lyrics of
chandrababu's "Buthiyulla Manidanellam Vetri Kanbadillai". It is an unique song i think
- From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220)
on: Thu Jul 18 14:31:04 EDT 2002
In the songs "aadi veLLi thEdi unnai naan adaindha nEram..." and "vasandha kaala nadhigaLilE..." (both from MOONRU MUDICHCHU) every line from the second line onwards starts with the last word in the previous line.
- From: JJ (@ 65.69.45.237)
on: Thu Jul 18 15:54:24 EDT 2002
Those Andhadi type songs are marvellous works Kannadasan (?)
- From: thiru (@ 63.169.243.18)
on: Thu Jul 18 16:54:25 EDT 2002
vanamellam shenbagapooo from Nadodi paatukaran has a poo in each and every line.....
- From: ram (@ 63.161.25.156)
on: Thu Jul 18 17:17:58 EDT 2002
ec,
If I remeber correctly Porukku ugantha raagam is Gambeera nattai
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Fri Jul 19 06:22:57 EDT 2002
I am not sure whether gambeera nattai was mentioned in that song and don't have the chance to check it now:((
Anyway thanks ram for the info!
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Fri Jul 19 06:27:55 EDT 2002
Here is vasandha rudhu song! (it is a duet of MKT with some female singer!)
'vasandha' rudhu mana mohaname
malarndha malaridhazh
maNam kamazh thenRal
malligai mullai 'kundhaLavaraaLi'
moiththa malarithazh kulunga viLangum
nagai paithiyam 'ethukulaampOthilum'
nanavilum kanavilum ore sindhayai
'surutti' koNarndhu kodutharuthaaRpOlave
sollukku panjamillai
I hope I remember and have typed it correctly :-)If wrong please correct it!
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Fri Jul 19 06:38:44 EDT 2002
For those who are interested in hearing the above song: it is available in 'dhool'!
But it is not functioning (for me) at the moment. So good luck!
- From: GV (@ 65.93.1.181)
on: Fri Jul 19 07:30:25 EDT 2002
ec: Thank you for the lyrics of "vasandha ruthu...". The dhool link is not working. It is available at:
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/WW000I0U
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Fri Jul 19 10:04:07 EDT 2002
thanks GV!
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