Topic started by The Oracle (@ 203.127.32.40) on Thu Dec 27 03:46:50 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
On this very day, millions of ppl who watched chinna chinna aasai in DD's sirappu oliyum oliyum sighed in great relief. Freedom from IR atlast.
A month or 2 later IR gave an interview to DD in which he acted hysterical and made ppl wonder whether he has really gone mad. He also tried to write ARR off by commenting that hez a "oru pada adhisayam". ( ARR will never make such a comment about a fellow MD, in his life ).Now, we all know for sure, who had the last laugh.
IR had kept tamil music listeners in utter darkness for over two decades. Same old tunes with "thanana thanana" , "lalala lalala " and "tok tok" tabla in the background. As for BGMs, happiness means veena and sorrow means shenoy. Ask Pushpavanam Kuppusami about the number of folk songs that IR has directly lifted. And if he gets bored, he will turn to western classical music and symphonies for inspirations ( entha poovilum vaasam undu, chittu kuruvi, pootukkal pottaalum, Mouna Ragam Theme etc.. to cite a few. Visit I2FS site for more info ). Its very different from using commercially available bass loops or sound samples, FYI. And god only knows why IR is reluctant to release the so-called symphony which he did. And out of the 600 + films he did, not even 100 songs are worth a mention.
Now coming to the question of why IR fans are fanatics. Simple. When a person is kept in utter darkness for 20 odd years and suddenly exposed to light on one fine day, what will happen to him ?
The same thing is what IR fans are experiencing right now. They just cant take it. All these years they simply didnt realise that music has another dimension. And when ARR showed them that, by reflex action, they started criticizing him.
( "kaaitha maram kalladi padum " ). And the blessed ones who had already realised IRs " bad spell" were the ones who took to ARRs music like fish to water. As for the fanatics, let those ppl alone. Let them spend their lives in the darkness, which is good for them atleast, if not for us.
And i wanna take this opportunity to clarify one more thing regarding why ARRs music doesnt sound good when heard for the first time. ARR himself clarified this in an interview he gave to vikatan.
" When u like a song the first time around, it means that u had already heard a similar kind of tune before and that your mind can easily identify that pattern. Whereas in ARRs case, every composition of his is original and new, and naturally it takes time for that to sink in. Thatz why his tunes start growing on you ..."
Finally, in history we find visionaries with new ideas that are far ahead of their times, are initially denounced by their own clan. But ultimately they will leave their footprints in the sands of time. NO need to say ARR is one such great person.
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- From: Pras (@ 80.13.222.192)
on: Fri Dec 28 14:58:54 EST 2001
"Nalla vaarthaigalai pesa theriyaadhavargal eppadi nalla isayai ketpavargalaaga irukka mudiyum???"
Isayukkum vaarthayukkum ennappa sammantham ?????
You'r not able to prove that ARR is better than IR, so you are trying to find any suitable reason to prove it !!!!!!!!!!!!
kedda varthayam, mannakadiiyam, pongappa !
- From: Good Heart (@ 129.252.25.211)
on: Fri Dec 28 15:06:42 EST 2001
((Pras - Isayukkum vaarthayukkum ennappa sammantham ????))
Nalla kalarasanai ulla manasukku nalla ennangale irukkum...Adhukku thappaana ennangal thondraadhu...Idhuku melum idhai naan explain pannanum endraal....i have a famous proverb for u...
"Yedhukko theriyuma, Yedho Vaasanai"
- From: Jeera (@ 66.75.182.72)
on: Fri Dec 28 16:23:29 EST 2001
When will we get freedom from such threads???
- From: arun_uk (@ 195.99.125.204)
on: Fri Dec 28 16:30:53 EST 2001
Why can't everyone(esp.IR fans) completely ignore senseless comments by a person(oracle) who exudes phenomenal ignorance?
Well he has every right to be a part of democracy & therefore air his intelligent views which seem to stem from years of experience & an amazing knowledge and understanding of every aspect of music itself!
No Real Music Expert has ever degraded or passed drerogatory comments about IR's music. It's only trivial people who do what they are best at! Aren't we well aware of 'empty vessels making more noise'? What in the world can you do about it?
Key Message -Ignore!
- From: arrgoodtimer (@ 63.215.113.46)
on: Sat Dec 29 13:43:05 EST 2001
ARR was a spinoff of IR, nothing new. but it is HJ who is the real fresh air in TFM. YSR a spinoff of ARR and KR too talented. byut ARR u r all mistaken. he has only that much to offer. time out.
- From: Good (@ 129.252.25.211)
on: Sat Dec 29 16:45:11 EST 2001
"arrgoodtimer - ARR was a spinoff of IR, nothing new. but it is HJ who is the real fresh air in TFM. YSR a spinoff of ARR and KR too talented. byut ARR u r all mistaken. he has only that much to offer. time out."
Enna man olari irukka??? Sathiyama enakku onnum puriyala...Ungalil yaarukkaavadhu purindhal enakku vilakkavum...In fact idha oru contestaa vikatanla publish pannalaamnu nenaikaren...
- From: Good Heart (@ 129.252.25.211)
on: Sat Dec 29 16:45:27 EST 2001
"arrgoodtimer - ARR was a spinoff of IR, nothing new. but it is HJ who is the real fresh air in TFM. YSR a spinoff of ARR and KR too talented. byut ARR u r all mistaken. he has only that much to offer. time out."
Enna man olari irukka??? Sathiyama enakku onnum puriyala...Ungalil yaarukkaavadhu purindhal enakku vilakkavum...In fact idha oru contestaa vikatanla publish pannalaamnu nenaikaren...
- From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198)
on: Mon Dec 31 03:18:56 EST 2001
arrgoodtimer,
Can u please post your earlier post in english so that we dumb people also can understand
a bit??:-)))NOM
- From: Raja Rasikan (@ 172.189.188.62)
on: Mon Dec 31 04:54:53 EST 2001
ARR Goodtimer,you showed that you are a gnanasooniyam by saying that HJ is the only fresh talent.HJ will be arrested soon for his theft. He is the most untalented.Just because audience in India are uneducated and buy his cheap rip-off's does not make him good.YSR is the only real talent in tfm now. Followed by VS
- From: eden (@ 210.214.5.220)
on: Mon Dec 31 07:40:51 EST 2001
Just because audience in India are uneducated
What sort of comment is that? 20 varushamA Raja music kEttappO ellArum highly literate'A irundhAnga, ippO illEngaRiyAppA?
appA `Rajarasigan', oLaRAdhEppA:-(
- From: Pal (@ 199.43.32.21)
on: Mon Dec 31 10:20:12 EST 2001
eden :)))
- From: Good Heart (@ 129.252.25.211)
on: Tue Jan 1 18:08:51 EST 2002
"Raja Rasikan - Just because audience in India are uneducated"
Yo Raja Rasikan, Naangha uneducated dhan...Neengha yen indha padikaadhavangha pesara threadukku vareengha??? Nalla educated people(Unghalai pola :-) ) irukara threadukku pongha...Naangha ariyaadhavangha, yedho theriyaama olaruvom...So please stay away from our thread...
P.S: Indian audiencaye uneducatednu solradhukku romba Garvam venum...Aamaam...Indha "Mandai" Garvathaala azhinjhavaroda fan aache neengha, ungha kitta irundhu idhai thavaira veru edhai edhirpaaka mudiyum???
- From: Good Heart (@ 129.252.25.211)
on: Tue Jan 1 18:11:35 EST 2002
Eden,
Well said!!!
But one clarification, raaja 20 varushama tfmla illainu naan nenaikaren...if i am not wrong innum 15 yrs complete aagala...
- From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198)
on: Wed Jan 2 02:21:55 EST 2002
Good Heart,
Raja came in to TFM scene in 1976 i think.then its more than 24 years now !!Am i right ?
- From: aiythaan (@ 64.40.45.32)
on: Wed Jan 2 03:53:01 EST 2002
Oraclenu oru vivarangkettavaga sandiyaru paesuraga...
athukku pala nalla manam padaichavaga jalra poduraga..
athulla oru madai pOkatha paya..15 varushathukkum 25 varushathukkum vithyasam theriyama jalra poduraga.....
- From: Pras (@ 193.56.241.19)
on: Wed Jan 2 04:46:59 EST 2002
"Yedhukko theriyuma, Yedho Vaasanai"
Appa neenga kaluthai endu otthu kolluringa ??? :)
- From: Good Heart (@ 129.252.25.230)
on: Thu Jan 3 15:30:49 EST 2002
Sorry for the confusion(slight mappu...He..He..He..)lez move on to the topic...
- From: hehehewalrus (@ )
on: Fri Oct 1 23:04:07 EDT 2004
yes GoodHeart, what do u want? :)
- From: Good Heart (@ 61.2.33.134)
on: Fri Oct 1 23:36:36 EDT 2004
Oru quarter :-)
- From: thumburu (@ 83.89.145.50)
on: Sat Oct 2 04:04:48 EDT 2004
Good heart, bad for your heart :). Today is
Total Abstinence day (aahaa Gandhi Mahaan!!!)
- From: Good Heart (@ 61.2.32.197)
on: Sat Oct 2 04:54:18 EDT 2004
Inga kidaikkala-nu dhaaney walrus kitta kaekkaraen! :-)
- From: T Muthu (@ 68.75.54.10)
on: Sat Oct 2 13:08:48 EDT 2004
this is a very strange topic. i was not around in the vicinity so i missed this anachronism, also i spotted several miscalculations and speculations;
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From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198) on: Wed Jan 2 02:21:55 EST 2002
Good Heart,
Raja came in to TFM scene in 1976 i think.then its more than 24 years now !!Am i right ?
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1976 - 2004 = 28 yrs is my calculated contribution to this wildly weird topic.
also, i want to say i enjoyed catching up on the "refutations" for this erratically erroneous falsehope of The Oracle. these days, very difficult to find one such ridiculously outdated and negated debacle, and Oracle saar wish you good luck.
- From: SK (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Sat Oct 2 19:39:17 EDT 2004
'Oraclae' 2001la yezhudhinadhai yaaro oru 'brahaspathi' dhoosi thatti marupadiyum kiLappi vittirukkaaru.
idhukku inoru 'b' math lesson yedukkaraaru!
ivanga yellaam 'bb' yezhudhina "SPB" interview-vai padikkalliyaa?
"yendha MD-yaiyum kuraivaa pEsaadheenga"-nnu andha medhai solliyum......
mmmmmm.....---- vaalai nimitthavaa mudiyum?
- From: hhw (@ 130.127.104.176)
on: Sat Oct 2 20:10:52 EDT 2004
SK, I thought the last poster was calling to me, thats why I responded ;=)
- From: siva (@ 219.92.84.4)
on: Sat Oct 2 22:27:28 EDT 2004
Oracle=so immature!
- From: C~P (@ 61.2.32.127)
on: Sat Oct 2 23:11:33 EDT 2004
hhw,
naatula manushan siricha koodava thappu?! :-)
- From: SK (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Sun Oct 3 11:24:35 EDT 2004
:-).hhw!
- From: Appadi Poddu (@ 62.132.1.121)
on: Tue Oct 5 07:21:05 EDT 2004
adda keddu kette peh pundenggalla....where is arr now? if you know what i mean. hehehe
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