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Scarcity of Tamil Singers in Tamil Film Industry ?

Topic started by Choochan (@ 61.11.78.180) on Tue Feb 11 07:07:52 EST 2003.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

We have very few famous Tamil singers in Tamil Film Industy from Thiyagaraja Bhagavathar time.

TMS (his mother tongue is Sowrashtra),PB Srinivas (Kannada).

Balamuralikrishna, SPB, Janaki, Susheela, SP Sailaja, Mano, Devan (Telugu).

KJ Yesudas, Jeyachandran, Chitra, Unnikrishnan, Unnimenon, Jency,Swarnalatha, Minmini,Sujatha, Chinmayi, Chitra Sivaraman (Tenali) - Malayalam.
(I may miss some names)

Atleast this time we have some Tamilsingers Hariharan, Shankar Mahadevan, Karthik, Tippu, Harini, Srinivas,Harish Ragavendra etc.

What is the reason for other language singers dominating the Tamil film Industy. It is not so in Telugu or Malayalam film Industy. (Of course Hindi it is very difficult to predict who is from where).

Atleast now there are some Tamil singers. Will it continue ?

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• From: Jag (@ 35.11.98.63) on: Thu Jul 17 11:32:42 EDT 2003
  
  Hey IRRRRR
  The number of R's seem to change from post to post? Or is it a different IRR... :)
  
  
• From: IRRRRRRRRRR = IRRRRRR (@ 141.202.248.12) on: Thu Jul 17 12:50:42 EDT 2003
  
  All IRR* are same.
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ ) on: Sun Aug 17 17:17:28 EDT 2003
  
  TMS is a sourastrian. But he brought up in Madurai. Sourastras are mainly living in Madurai, Paramakudi and Kumbakonam. They all came to tamil nadu 400 years back. You can count them us Tamilians
  
  
• From: seema (@ 219.93.194.170) on: Tue Aug 19 04:06:19 EDT 2003
  
  Is harish ragavendra is going to marry with a Malaysian girl.
  
  
• From: Venky (@ 193.128.25.20) on: Tue Aug 19 05:12:01 EDT 2003
  
  look at www.cinesouth.com, there is news about Harish's marriage.
  
  
• From: Seema (@ 219.93.194.170) on: Wed Aug 20 03:55:20 EDT 2003
  
  Which side 2 go there alot about others. I can't fine about harish ragavendra.
  
  
• From: tamilvirumbi (@ 61.95.244.44) on: Wed Aug 20 04:15:35 EDT 2003
  
  Let the ignorant tamils with inferiority complex in their blood suckk upto the north indians for no reason and get lost and die.because they dont realise that other language people are eating away their bread and butter.Unless there is self realisation nothing can change them.
  
  
• From: Madhu from india (@ 219.93.194.170) on: Thu Aug 21 04:04:41 EDT 2003
  
  Why is that the Tamil singers like to marry overseas girls not in their country. For example Harish Ragavendra. Doesn't it sound silly, They feels happy to marry them.
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.99.73.50) on: Sat Aug 23 10:14:08 EDT 2003
  
  On one side we have several Tamil scholars fighting for "Classical Language" status for Tamil.
  
  http://www.vikatan.com/jv/2003/aug/27082003/jv0602.shtml
  
  On another side we have Tamil software engineers and linguists adding a fourth Tamil called "aRiviyal thamizh" to the longliving "muththamiz".
  
  http://www.dinakaran.com/daily/2003/Aug/23/general/GeneNews10.html
  
  And then we have TFM personalities who have in the past few decades succesfully degraded and ruined the livelihoods of Tamil singers, Tamil musicians and have turned Tamil language into "kuppai thamizh". There is a very large group of rasikargal who are more than ready to lap it all up. Wow! What a contribution!
  
  
• From: rohini (@ ) on: Sun Aug 31 00:42:18 EDT 2003
  
  everyones talking abt many singers...but cunt find even a single one talking abt singer karthik.....i am a gr8 fan of his voice but cunt find even a single information abt him....y ? and where will i find?
  
  
• From: sandiya (@ 202.140.151.161) on: Sun Aug 31 10:52:32 EDT 2003
  
  why not anuradha sriram,l.r.eswari.......they are pur tamil singers!!!!!!!1
  
  
• From: S Ramaswamy (@ 203.94.225.168) on: Sun Aug 31 11:28:03 EDT 2003
  
  Hi,
  
  I have an observation to make. Tall Tamil singers like the incomparable MSS, DKP, MLV and even NCV chose to concentrate on classical music rather than film background music. Even the current lot like Sudha Raghunathan, Bombay Jayashree, Nityashree etc are not pursuing a career in TFM, perhaps feeling that it's not enough. That's the reason for the dearth of Tamil singers in TFM. And as someone has commented TMS is a pucca Tamilian having been brought up in a community that had long ago migrated to the Tamil Land from Saurashtra.
  
  
• From: Bhargav (@ 24.225.186.234) on: Sun Aug 31 15:46:36 EDT 2003
  
  Srinivas is from Trivandrum.. a Malayalee. Early in the 1980s, he used to be part of an orchestra in TVM called 'Blue Birds' with KS Chitra, G Venugopal etc.
  
  Also, I don't merit to this discussion. Music has no language .. what if some singers were Tamilian by birth, others were from Kerala, Hyderabad etc. Together, they all enrich music
  
  
• From: Pras (@ 24.233.164.162) on: Thu Sep 4 23:46:21 EDT 2003
  
  I agree with S Ramaswamy, don't put boundries on music. I enjoy diversity, although I prefer not to hear any tamilish (combination of tamil and english) in songs. If a singer wants to sing in a different language, thats fine but sing the whole song in that language.
  
  I am ashamed by tamil people, who complain about how other cultures are eroding tamil culture. If it wasn't for other cultures, I would not have realized the ignorance of tamil people. (Example caste system, star charts, crazy religious beliefs, and stupid customs).
  
  I am proud to call myself Tamil, but unlike most Tamil people I know what being Tamil really means
  
  
• From: Pras (@ 24.233.164.162) on: Thu Sep 4 23:47:52 EDT 2003
  
  *Correction: "I agree with Bhargav,....."
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.99.73.50) on: Fri Sep 5 01:51:28 EDT 2003
  
  Music has no language, may be. But the lyrics have language. The people have language.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Fri Sep 5 08:11:31 EDT 2003
  
  Neel D -
  
  But do people take pride and stand by their language? Do they know enough about its riches to fight for it longevity? Do they flinch when they hear zhas masticated (zha illamal "tamizh" undo?)
  That's something we can only answer for ourselves - one person at a time.
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Fri Sep 5 09:50:17 EDT 2003
  
  Probably!! it is not scarcity, only thing that reminds me is two great pazhamozhi's (proverb)
  "Ikkaraikku akkarai pachai" (Grass is greener on the other shore)
  "Maatran thotathu malligaikku manam undu" (the jasmine in the neighbours garden has more fragrance)....
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Fri Sep 5 10:28:03 EDT 2003
  
  MusicIsLife -
  
  At the heart of both those proverbs is the critique of spinelessness and abject self-esteem.
  (or the delusion (1) of one's own making (2)).
  
  
• From: mats (@ 202.9.168.59) on: Thu Sep 11 03:49:36 EDT 2003
  
  The whole argument is based on a wrong premise, at least where malayalam film music (MFM)is concerned. In MFM the most popular female singers have come from outside for 4 decades, until Chitra came along. even when P Leela was going very strong in Telugu, the MFM was completely dominated by P Susheela, Jikki and Janaki, and then V Jayaram. Before KJY came along, the most popular singer was AM Raja, and PBS was also very popular. Incidentally, almost all the actresses in MFs were from Andhra/TN (except SHEELA/JBHARATI).
  So, i think there in cross-over into the other side, in all the four SI languages. And, this was/is a good rather than bad thing. As an aside, i have never read/seen anybody agonising about the domination of SJ/PS in MFM, because, you see, they were there by merit.
  .
  by the way the new true-blood tamil singers (karthik/shanker mah/tippu etc.. etc..) over whom ther's a lot of wide-eyed admiration, are not a patch on the non-tamilians (KJJ/SPB/TMS)who gave us heavenly melodies in TFM. probably these newcomers will improve and prove themselves.. i dont know.
  .
  cheerio..
  
  
• From: SHEIK (@ 61.11.83.79) on: Thu Sep 18 00:38:11 EDT 2003
  
  TAMIL TAMI THERE R MANY SINGERS ARE THEIR TO PROOVE THEIR TALENT BUT THE PEOPLE R SELECTING THE HINDHI SINGERS TO SING THE IN TAMIL ITS NOT A CLEAR WORD PRONOUNCE BY THEM
  
  
• From: sheik (@ 61.11.83.79) on: Thu Sep 18 00:39:30 EDT 2003
  
  yes if any body wants to contact me mail me in mullumshe@yah ok iam sheik
  
  
• From: Indra (@ 219.93.194.170) on: Thu Sep 18 02:20:38 EDT 2003
  
  How to get Singer Karthik's e-mail Add.
  
  
• From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.6) on: Thu Sep 18 02:42:17 EDT 2003
  
  mail him and ask
  
  
• From: Pooja (@ 156.25.1.2) on: Wed Sep 24 08:55:17 EDT 2003
  
  hi guys
  i'm a fan to Karthik
  
  
• From: soniya (@ ) on: Tue Oct 21 14:54:09 EDT 2003
  
  singer karthik is so cute, and his the best singer ever!!!!!!!
  
  
• From: Roja (@ 66.185.84.78) on: Wed Oct 22 00:11:55 EDT 2003
  
  Hi..
  i'm Roja from Canada.
  Wait Shankar Madhavan is tamil??? I thought he was a muslim, and r u sure Hariharan is tamil.I know for sure Karthick is tamil. He even said in an interview how he likez to write the lyrics of songs in tamil and sing them.
  All those people wandering about Karthick. You should go to the forum about Karthick. There is a forum for Karthick's fan in case you didn;t notice.
  
  
• From: Screeky (@ ) on: Sun Dec 7 05:25:05 EST 2003
  
  Srinivas is NOT a malayali. He's a pucca tamilian who was brought up in kerala. i know his bio- data fully.
  
  
• From: Screeky (@ ) on: Sun Dec 7 05:25:18 EST 2003
  
  Srinivas is NOT a malayali. He's a pucca tamilian who was brought up in kerala. i know his bio- data fully.
  
  
• From: Screeky (@ ) on: Sun Dec 7 05:25:56 EST 2003
  
  Srinivas is NOT a malayali. He's a pucca tamilian who was brought up in kerala. i know his bio- data fully.
  
  
• From: Anirudh Sravan Pulipaka (@ ) on: Thu Sep 9 11:31:31 EDT 2004
  
  PB Srinivas is telugu...anyway...music is above language..even then same is the case with every south indian language even we telugu ppl feel bad abt not listening to chaste telugu in songs...P.Suseela is irreplaceable...so is SPB...!Many do not know abt this great singer called Ghantasala Venkateswara Rao....all are gifts to music from every place...but one thing may be there are less singers who are tamizh but for a true singer it is the tamil audience that counts...an audiens that enjoys and essentially understands music.
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.1.1.101) on: Thu Sep 9 13:47:41 EDT 2004
  
  two more maNNin makkaL singing in TFM: Ilayaraja & Bhavadharini:-)
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Fri Sep 10 05:50:40 EDT 2004
  
  I agree with Anirudh to certain extent that music is above language. But I cant stand people (whatever language they sing in) killing the language in the song. I think in the past - almost all the singer - inspite of having different languages as their mother tongues were perfect in their diction! I think that is what matters.
  
  
• From: IR_Fan_From_Kerala (@ 210.18.114.3) on: Fri Sep 10 06:55:00 EDT 2004
  
  I agree that someone who cant grip the language fluently shouldnt be allowed to sing film music, as lyrics form an important part of it. But i think KJJ, KSC, SPB, JC have done an excellent job in Tamil. Similarly, SJ, PS, PBS have given excellent songs in Malayalam. So, one shouldnt care where he is from, but only should care whether he is capable of handling the language. Thats why, being a malayali myself, im a great fan of Ilayaraja and i hear all good songs of Tamil, Telugu and Kannada.
  
  
• From: tamil (@ 130.126.72.28) on: Fri Sep 10 18:03:29 EDT 2004
  
  I completely agree with IR_Fan_From_Kerala. It is not the non-tamilian singers that are the problem, it is that ones who murder the language. If you are going to make your livelyhood in another state then you should make the effort to learn the language at the very least.
  
  
• From: music (@ 167.102.224.45) on: Mon Sep 13 11:26:46 EDT 2004
  
  IR_Fan_From_Kerala,
  
  Do you know where PBS songs in Malayalam are available? Thanks
  
  
• From: SAMUEL LAZARUS (@ ) on: Thu Nov 25 10:16:32 EST 2004
  
  I would like to have some information on Tamil film playback singer of the 1980s by the name of "JENCY". As far as I know her professional plyback singing career began in 1978 and ended sometime in 1981 and during this period she has sung extensively for "ILLAYARAJA".
  
  I should be grateful to have some more information on this playcabk singer.
  
  Regards
  
  SAMUEL LAZARUS
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ 192.147.57.6) on: Thu Nov 25 20:34:32 EST 2004
  
  Samuel, there is an article (interview) on Jency in one of the editions of Anandavikatan of this month (Nov). She opted off from playback singing since she got married and had to bring up her 2 children. Now that they are grown up, she says she would like to sing again but says she is 'scared' to meet IR again as he had advised her to stay back when she decided to quit. She said off all the new singers, she like Chithra the best and considers her like her own daughter. She also likes Sadhna Sargam.
  
  

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