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Grammatical mistakes(Ilakkana pizhaigal) in tamil songs

Topic started by JK (@ 61.11.81.98) on Wed Sep 3 03:15:24 EDT 2003.
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In "andhimazhai megham" from nayakan..."Paal kudangal Then kudangal Nooru Vandhathu"...this line is there.

It should should be "Vandhana" because 100 kudangal is plural..

I noticed it after one of my friends had told it to me

In one webpage about vairamuthu.. i could find the same complaint for "ilaiya nilaa pozhigirathey"..
"Mughilinangal alaigirathey".. should be "Mughilinangal alaigindrana"

Please give more examples..

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Responses:

• From: Tamizh vaathiyar (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Wed Sep 3 04:39:13 EDT 2003
  
  Another common error I notice is usage of 'Oru' and 'Oor' in wrong places. For ex, in 'Kanave kalayathe' song a line goes 'kann moodiye nee pesidum Oor vasagam'. It should be Oru vasagam, as 'Oor' should be used only before vowel sounds. Alternatively, i find the usage of Oru in front of vowels, in plenty !
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.81.100) on: Wed Sep 3 05:45:27 EDT 2003
  
  s u r correct!..
  
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.81.100) on: Wed Sep 3 05:48:23 EDT 2003
  
  have u noticed sun tv news? almost everyday there will be an error in this singular...plural..issue.
  
  
  
• From: BT (@ 207.46.228.14) on: Wed Sep 3 17:16:42 EDT 2003
  
  "Oru ooril azhagey oruvaai" - Kaakka Kaakka
  
  Should be "Oar ooril"
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.79.106) on: Thu Sep 4 03:43:28 EDT 2003
  
  I think Oru ooril is accepted. the rule is "Or" should be used only before vowels. you can use "Oru" before any letter.
  
  
• From: Tamizh vaathiyar (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Thu Sep 4 04:31:35 EDT 2003
  
  No, what BT says is correct. it should be Oar ooril, 'Oru' should be used only before consonant sounds.
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.84.199) on: Thu Sep 4 06:01:31 EDT 2003
  
  We always starts a story with "Oru ooril oru raja " like that only na?
  
  confusion!
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.84.199) on: Thu Sep 4 06:02:41 EDT 2003
  
  so.. according to u..
  
  "Oru iniya manathu isaiyai azhaithu sellum" is also wrong?
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.195) on: Thu Sep 4 06:32:31 EDT 2003
  
  
  Friends,
  
  I have the following observation on MGR's 'enga veettup piLLai' song, 'naan aaNaiyittaal, adhu nadanthu vittaal, intha EzhaigaL vEdhanaip pada maattaar!':
  
  Ideally, it should be 'naan aaNaiyittu adhu nadanthu vittaal....' or 'naan aaNaiyidum pOthu adhu nadanthu vittaal', or 'naan iduvEn oru aaNai, adhu mattum nadanthu vittaal' or simply 'naan idum aaNai mattum nadanthu vittaal'. Because two if's are not used in succession in Tamil!
  Hero-vukku than aaNai kadaip pidikkap padumaa enbathil sandhEgam irukkalaam! aanal indha varigaLil avarukku thaan aaNai iduvenaa enbathilEyE sandhegam iruppathu pOl thOnRugiRathu!
  
  (Don't blame me for too much of hair splitting!)
  
  
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.84.199) on: Thu Sep 4 06:59:26 EDT 2003
  
  Cinema virumbi!
  
  its correct. it seems that hero himself has a doubt of "Aanaiyiduvathu"
  
  Good one. Made me to laugh
  
  
• From: Tamizh vaathiyar (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Thu Sep 4 12:56:07 EDT 2003
  
  JK, that's true. it should be 'Oor Iniya manathu'. compare it to a famous movie 'Oor Iravu', which starts with an 'I' as well. Simply, my understanding is,
  'Oru' in Tamizh is equivalent to 'a' in english, 'Oor'is equivalent to 'an'.
  
  
  
• From: Tamizh vaathiyar (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Thu Sep 4 12:59:51 EDT 2003
  
  When i read this topic, i thought of the starting lines of Vaali's 'avathara purushan' in vikatan. It is ramayanam in pudhu kavithai format. In the introduction part it goes like..
  
  'Vaazhvin
  Ilakanam viLakiya purushanai
  Ilakanam viLakiya tamizhal
  paadukiren'
  
  clever usage of tamizh words ! sorry for digression :-)
  
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 206.97.63.112) on: Thu Sep 4 15:03:23 EDT 2003
  
  JK: I am not sure about 'or'/'oru' use. Bharathiyar has a few with 'or' preceding consonants:
  Mangiyathor nilavinile
  Nallthor veenai seithe
  Ellai illathor vaanakkadalidaiye
  May be,that was why he was scorned/scolded by the established poets in Ettayapuram. He was accused of not following the rules for poetry. But, we remember him. What about those who accused him?
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.195) on: Fri Sep 5 05:03:24 EDT 2003
  
  
  Friends,
  
  One more! (sollil pizhai illai! irunthaalum athu mannikkap padalaam! poruLilthaan kuRRam uLLathu!)
  
  I located this in the song 'nalanthaanaa?' from 'Thillaanaa MohanaambaaL':
  
  Padmini: "puN patta sEthiyaik kEtta udan inthap peN patta paattai yaaraRivaar?"
  
  SEthiyaik kEtka vENdiya avasiyamE illai! Because , in her presence only, the villain stabs Sivaji!
  
  
• From: Tamizh vaathiyar (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Fri Sep 5 06:04:59 EDT 2003
  
  Mr. Nakeerrare (CV),
  actually, in that movie there is a challenge going on between them to win each other in thillana. so, when the villain stabs sivaji in front of her, padmini 'aaha, alu outnu' jollya veetuku poitange. then she comes to know that our overacting hero escapes with some minor injuries.. so she goes..
  'verum puNoda thapicha seithiyai kettu,
  entha peN patta paatai yaaraRivaar ?'
  
  epdi erukumo ?! (hi hi hi)
  
  
• From: bombay (@ 64.175.64.17) on: Fri Sep 5 10:25:32 EDT 2003
  
  In Kannalane song (Bombay). 'aaLaana oru sEthi ariyAmalE; alai paayum oru pEdhai naanO' - does this sentence make any sentence at all?
  
  
• From: bombay (@ 64.175.64.17) on: Fri Sep 5 10:26:43 EDT 2003
  
  Correction: 'does this sentence make any sentence at all?' = 'does this sentence make any sense at all?'
  
  
• From: jeansdinesh (@ 202.156.2.130) on: Sun Sep 7 02:59:43 EDT 2003
  
  ungalukkellam periya pulavargalnnu nenapu. ponga da neengalum unga thamizh pattrum. thaangamudiyile da samy!
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.76.244) on: Tue Sep 9 03:00:20 EDT 2003
  
  Mr. Jeansdinesh!
  
  If u find mistake that does not mean ..for that u should be a pulavar.
  
  Saadharana tamil usage therinjavangalukku kooda theriyum.
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.77.82) on: Tue Sep 9 03:28:30 EDT 2003
  
  "In Kannalane song (Bombay). 'aaLaana oru sEthi ariyAmalE; alai paayum oru pEdhai naanO' - does this sentence make any sentence at all?"
  
  I too was scratching my head on listening to those lines
  
  
  
  
  

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