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violin, viola, cello, double bass & carnatic violin what is the difference

Topic started by other_side (@ 209.166.128.18) on Tue May 13 13:29:33 EDT 2003.
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Can someone explain
1)what is the difference between these instruments.
2)And to represent what kind of sound or different moods are these used.
3)what changes are made with the normal violin to be used in carnatic concerts.

Off cource TFM examples will be greatly helpful.

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• From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.82) on: Fri May 16 00:57:37 EDT 2003
  
  ejaman first interlude also has this santoor (?!?) just before SPB starts singing the charanam.
  
  
• From: rags (@ 203.57.223.25) on: Fri May 16 02:17:11 EDT 2003
  
  Great postings from Raj. For a first hand hearing on how they blend together beautifully - listen to the compositions in RESONANCE - a recent album by a chennai based quartet led by VS Narasimhan - the lead violinist for IR in the 80s era. I remember reading a review of this album in www.themusicmagazine.com sometime back.
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.112.46) on: Fri May 16 12:39:02 EDT 2003
  
  Raj: i think most carnatic "violins" are actually viola; i think TNS is the only one who uses "violin" - note the difference in the tonal quality.
  
  there are umpteen songs in which one could hear the string family voices sans viola. a good one is sangeedha mEgam thEn sindhum nEram.
  
  veeNai being close to human voice: :-) it depends upon who plays the veeNai. when i listen to s. balachander i always get a feeling that he is actually singing! another instrument that is very much like human voice is nAdhaswaram!!!!! thanks to a friend, i got a chance to listen to a lot of kArakkurichi... one should hear to believe what magic this instrument can create in the right hands! its frustrating to see nadhaswaram, sarangi, veeNai (and most instrumental music of india - specifically south india) not getting their deserved respect :-(
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.112.46) on: Fri May 16 13:44:17 EDT 2003
  
  i meant TNK, not TNS :-)
  
  
• From: other_side (@ 209.166.128.18) on: Wed May 21 13:48:35 EDT 2003
  
  --- this is a posting by srikanth on counter point----
  
  Counter point is a score that is played over (under) a melody,
  In raja kaiyavecha - the second bgm has a 3 part counter point.
  1. Violins : plays the lead part,
  2. Viola : plays a conter pointer (in half the timing of above)
  3. Cello and double bass playes a chromatic scales progression which is twice the melody length.
  ie :
  if the Melody plays notes as halfs per bar
  the 1st counter point plays in 8ths and 16ths per bar,the 2nd counter point - double bass plays 1 full note per bar.
  
  
• From: jagan (@ 61.11.73.84) on: Wed May 28 03:37:12 EDT 2003
  
  another combo of violin, violas & d.bass
  
  3rd bgm of Kodiyile malligapoo from K.Kavidhaigal
  
  The Bgm Starts with bells on the key borad overlapped by a touching solo by cello and followed by passage (question & answer ) between violin, violas vs cello & d.bass and ending with chromatic passage of cello & d.bass (last 4 bars of the BGM)
  
  similarly ananda raagam from Paneer pushpangal.
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.1) on: Wed May 28 09:50:51 EDT 2003
  
  What about the second interlude of 'karavai maadu mooNu' (magaLeer mattum)??? Just after Oorvasi starts singing, there is this string piece accompanied by heavy beats. I think cello is played violin style. (aanandha bairavi???)
  
  
• From: Raj (@ ) on: Fri Aug 29 22:33:51 EDT 2003
  
  Those of you interested in the history of violin in carnatic music please visit carnatica.net for a well written article by G.J.R. Krishnan (son of Lalgudi Jayaraman).
  
  

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