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Can ILAYARAAJA produce a good hit now..?

Topic started by Mumbai Ramki (@ 203.197.24.195) on Sat Aug 17 06:56:47 EDT 2002.
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Hi friends ,
Of late i feel that though ILLAYARAJA is the best MD in terms of BGM ,can he give a hit now ..?Noiw pleas e do not say that bharti ,Azhagi ,Kaasi are hits ..I liked them but they are not great ..The cassete sales are good .Agreed.ILLAYARAJA desperatly fails in western beats (now ..),which is evident in DEVAN .Can he give hit like Punngai Mannan ,Veera,Thalapthi ..For the past four years ILLAS has kept quiet .I don't expect him to deliver music like Ar Rehman ,but can he deliver the music which he delivered 10 years ago ...?Something very different ,Melodious .
Even his latest ventures IVAAN ,Enn MANA VAAANIL are not great .IVAAN is good ,but when compare dto SINDU Bhairavi ...sorry ..ENN MANA VAANIL is just average ...say a simlar movie like KIzhagu Vasal had great songs ...!

what do u say ..?

IF i remember his last "GREAT" hit was KAdaluku MArriyadhai .....What do u say friends ..?

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• From: Derek Jeter (@ 68.63.109.5) on: Fri Aug 23 17:59:07 EDT 2002
  
  phantom
  just one song in a movie doesnt make the songs a hit... raman abdullah, kadhal kavidhai , friends , kannukkul nilavu etc all had just one or two songs which were good though not great.... if you consider it as a hit, deva and SAR will consider most of their movies as hits... As mumbai ramki had told, can we buy the cassette without hearing it? Ivann has average songs and IMO can't be considered a hit... IR is not producing the magical notes he was producing once....Regd hindi music, It's total crap.... the essence of hindi music faded when ppl like kishore, md. rafi and RD burman left the scene and ppl like anand milind, laxmi-pyaralel, bappi lahari, anu malik etc came into picture.... for a hindi song, u just need two dolak beats and a singer singing thro his nose.... BTW are we in TFM or HFM ???
  
  
• From: Mumbai Ramki (@ 203.197.24.195) on: Fri Aug 23 18:07:23 EDT 2002
  
  Also ILLAS music is martketed poorly ...take for instance SETHU ..I feel that SETHU had atleast 4 good sonsg ..Had the film been a flop ,nobody would have bought teh cassete ..
  
  Second thing is that when ar rehman who is average in BGM can include his theme music in his albums (lagan ,ratchagan ,bombay and a lot ) , i feeel every ILLAS album should contain atitle track ..
  
  Just Imagine if this had been done for HEYRAM or Sirai chalai ....WOW....
  
  SO i would say that ILLAS 's consistency coupled with poor marketing is doing allthe works
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Fri Aug 23 20:41:43 EDT 2002
  
  ... raman abdullah, kadhal kavidhai, friends, kannukkul nilavu
  
  Anyone outside this forum can remember or recall the songs from the above movies?
  The sad truth is, other than the hard core fans, no one else took great notice of these songs.
  
  A simple fact - If nobody patronises a restaurant, it could also be that the food served there is lousy.
  
  
• From: Mumbai Ramki (@ 203.197.24.195) on: Fri Aug 23 20:45:43 EDT 2002
  
  I agree that Raman Abdullah ,Kadal Kavithai were not hits ..BUt Friends and kannukul nilavu were good hits ..
  
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 152.163.201.148) on: Fri Aug 23 21:49:17 EDT 2002
  
  i thought Kadhal Kavithai was a hit ? Raman Abdullah, iam sure no one else had heard it.... same cannot be said about Friends and KN.... Mr.Nijam, summa just like that type panna koodadhu..... okaaa
  
  
• From: k (@ 68.46.180.46) on: Sat Aug 24 12:26:02 EDT 2002
  
  I still periodically listen to songs from Raman Abdullah (which has 3 great songs), Kadhal Kavidhai (I liked all the songs), Friends (all songs but two) and Kannukul Nilavu (all songs).
  
  I would disagree with the the statement that if no one patronises a restaurant, then food must be lousy. I see that an ignorant and shallow restaurant. Lets just take the same example: it may be because that restaurant's location, the food may be pricey, the customers may be running after fast food ( a fad), another restaurant in the area may be advertising more heavily, the taste may be suitable only for a sophisticated few...An intelligent analyis must take into account such sophistication than a shallow and ignornant view point that was expressed that a restaurant without partons means food is lousy.
  
  Also lets look at the corollary. Does an album or MD just because he is popular at a given time point mean that the album or the MD produces quality/ For this, I use my favorite example. This is the same populace which hugely supported Indira Gandhi, Jayalalitha, MGR, Laloo prads Yadav, Bal Thackeray etc. Just because these people had the mass support of the population, I cannot accept them as of quality (either good people or good leaders). To me ARR falls in the same category. Just because his albums sell more is no better reflection of quality than the same population's support of the type's of Indira Gandhi and jayalalitha a refecltion of quality.
  
  May be most people like to go with other's preferences (that is if others like it, the album sells well, I'll join the crowd too) but I choose to be different and am my own judge of quality, irrespective of how the populce feels about some thing (which is totally irrelevent to my preferences).
  
  
• From: MUSIC LOVER (@ 194.54.238.10) on: Sat Aug 24 13:15:48 EDT 2002
  
  MUMBAI RAMKI DOES ANYONE KNOW YOU ONCE YOU STEP OUT OF UR HOUSE,MUMBAILA PICHAI EDUKARA NAAI NEE UR TALKING ABOUT A GENIUS WHOS THE ONLY ASIAN TO COMPOSE THE SYMPHONY,U DIE RAMKI UNNAI BURY PANRATHA BURN PANRATHA NAAN MUDIVU PANRAEN,DEIIII ORU THAGUDHI VENUMDAA MATTAVANGALA VIMARSANAM SEIYA,ATLEAST IF U HAVE ACHIEVED WAT A MUSIC DIRECTOR LIKE SIRPY ACHIEVED I CAN AGREE,NEEYAE SINGLE TEA KU TINGI ADIKARA NAAI UNAKKU ENNA GUTS IRUNDHA 800 FILMS COMPOSE PANNA MAESTRO VA CRITICISE PANNUVA,DEI RAMKI AND ALL HIS JALRAS GO ACHIEVE SOMETHING AND WRITE ABOUT OTHERS
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 202.184.134.8) on: Sun Aug 25 22:59:40 EDT 2002
  
  it may be because that restaurant's location, the food may be pricey, the customers may be running after fast food ( a fad), another restaurant in the area may be advertising more heavily, the taste may be suitable only for a sophisticated few...
  
  You can give all kinds of excuses, but the fact remains that the food served is lousy.
  People will patronise a good restaurant regardless of its location or priceyness or a fad that has lasted 10 years.
  As for advertising, nothing beats word of mouth. After all the proof of the pudding is in the eating, is it not?
  
  
• From: :) (@ 64.216.219.158) on: Sun Aug 25 23:24:41 EDT 2002
  
  "People will patronise a good restaurant regardless of its location or priceyness or a fad that has lasted 10 years.
  "
  
  Nijam pee thingara nayi nee. Nee vandhu IR pathi pesariya. Unnaiellam nikka vechu kundi adikkanunda.
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 202.184.134.8) on: Sun Aug 25 23:26:55 EDT 2002
  
  :) (@ 64.216.219.158)
  
  Ahaa! Here is a patron from IR's restaurant.
  Do you need a better certificate than this?
  
  
• From: ***** (@ 64.216.219.30) on: Sun Aug 25 23:46:34 EDT 2002
  
  Enda Nijam ungappan pombala porukki... unnoda logic padi Neeyum oru pombala porukki...
  Soothu kizinjidum... jakradha.. nee enna periya mayirandia.. naan varusham 110000 dollar sambadikkiren.. nee enna panre... kaiadikkiraya..
  Nee edho buddhan madiri pesara.. pudukkatti
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 202.184.134.8) on: Mon Aug 26 00:13:43 EDT 2002
  
  IR would be so proud to have produced fans like this!
  
  
• From: K (@ 12.104.48.60) on: Mon Aug 26 10:51:45 EDT 2002
  
  The response on the patronage of restaurant just reflects on the quality of food just reflects on the poor comprehension and sheer ignorance of the concepts in marketing as a science.
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Thu Aug 29 12:58:34 EDT 2002
  
  Nijam thittu vaangaatha thread-ae illai. Appavum thirundha maatten engiraar.
  
  Somebody started a thread just to remove him from TFM page. newtfmpage history-ilae this is the first time. Andha perumai avaraye saarum.
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 35.9.20.19) on: Thu Aug 29 13:08:53 EDT 2002
  
  I think Kaadhal Kavidhai had great songs. Even if one is not IR fan, I think one should check it out.
  
  Jag
  
  

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