Topic started by TFM rasigan (@ 192.11.221.102) on Thu Jan 25 12:00:02 EST 2001.
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On a positive note a great achievement and a commendable recognition for her service. But are we going overboard.
There have been a great many artists from TFM and TF who have'nt received even a Padma shri.
Why are'nt we even protesting this? Last year Ismail Durbar(Hope I got his name right) got a national award for Hum Dil De....! . We have been mere bystanders in this process. We can pour a lot of rhetoric but all this will be a waste if we do'nt have our voices heard.
Should we act now? Maybe a representation or some kind of demonstration to show our protest.
Every conceivable institution in India has been compromised for political gains.
Or is it just that we guys do'nt have the spine!
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- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Fri Jan 26 15:50:31 EST 2001
OOre emaathatheengayya! Emandavanellam muzhichikittan! Jaakiradai! Ha.. Haa,,Idhu Eppadi Irukku?
Asadu Vazhiyudhu. Odipoyiru!
- From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201)
on: Fri Jan 26 17:02:13 EST 2001
- From: Subbiah (@ 62.253.64.4)
on: Sat Jan 27 06:15:20 EST 2001
Two things are very clear :
1. The contention is that there are more talented people (Sivaji, IR...) who are still not on the awards list. To get an award , apart from merit some other factors like region, language, influence etc. play a major part...
2. Definitely the impact that TFM has made in Indian music has not been appropriately recognised. Noone can deny that most of the central govt. awards biased towards North India.
Digression : TN govt. is not less worse. Even when Central govt. recognised Sethu as the best movie last year... here Padayappa was honoured for votes !! Shame... what these politicians are doing to art ...
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189)
on: Sat Jan 27 11:20:33 EST 2001
Subbaiah,
Well said. I said the same briefly above.
- From: dignity (@ 203.199.233.175)
on: Wed Jan 31 21:00:29 EST 2001
Fliflo and assosciate pamaran etc -
Thanks for the special interest.You can apply for a PhD in IRology.
The list of 'tamils' introduced by IR was asked for.
Answer your consciecne! Have you given the correct list? Have you answered NChari correctly?
Your posting shows 150 names with majority singing in films even before IR used, they cant be called as 'introduced'(AL Raghavan, TLMaharajan etc).
"!Tamil Names" like Ajay chakrabarthy, Anupama, Bhupendra etc.., many names like Deepan, TKS Kalaivanan, Soolamangalam murali etc., who had sung only single digits, and a more and more unknown names (!probably Chorus/ Bhajan groups) were posted, along with ration card list or voters list.
OOre Yemathinathu Podhum, Vera Nalla Pozhapa Paaru!
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189)
on: Wed Jan 31 23:11:38 EST 2001
Dignity,
I think the list provides singers introduced by IR. Yes some of the singers were singing already. I would say one thing. Before NChari asked the question did he ask himself how many Tamil singers ARR introduced? Pls don't play one sided game. I saw lots of fun postings before. Now-a-days I see lots of third rated mud-slinging postings.
- From: Raghu (@ 202.9.188.102)
on: Thu Feb 1 02:17:34 EST 2001
Ayya BharatRatna Latha Mangeshkarukku. Onga sandaya IR discussion allathu ARR discussionla vachikunga. Aamanya renduperume thamizh singers kammiya than kuduthirukkanga. Enna ARR ippa theriyarapula koduthitaru, athanal Maharajan, suresh peters, srinivas,sivasidambaram, Harini, Bobby,TK kala,sasireka, mahalaxmi ellorum theriyurranga. Ivangalleyum munnadiye paadinavanga irukkanga. Yaaravathu velakethi vekkanum, athai senjaanga.
Ivanga rendu perukkumay BaratRatna Latamangeshkar discussionla enna velai. Niraya per innum thaguthiyoda irukkanga! Summa irukkura Cinemakaranukkey ella ratnavayum Govt.kuduthukkutu irukkuma. Old response paar. IR universityila Dr. ARR Padmashri. Rendumey nenachu santhosha pattukkuttu avanavan velaya poi paarunga!
- From: S (@ 208.24.179.208)
on: Thu Feb 1 11:30:21 EST 2001
Raghu,
Why should we take IR/ARR fight away from this thread? No use reading the Title of the thread because "Bharat Rathna for Lata Mangeshakar" is not a TFM subject at all. It should have gone to the forumhub!!!
- From: BPS (@ 38.32.76.188)
on: Fri Feb 2 20:35:39 EST 2001
Hi,
I am the webmaster of the official Sirkali Home Page. This is to inform fans of Drs. Sirkali that the web address has changed from
http://www.icdc.com/~sirkali (or w3)
to
http://www.sirkali.org
Please change your bookmarks to point to this new link.
Thank You very much,
Balaji Pratap Sirkali (grandson of Dr. Sirkali Govindarajan, nephew of Dr. Sirkali Siva Chidambaram)
http://www.sirkali.org
balaji_p_sirkali@hotmail.com
- From: rajesh (@ 198.151.230.253)
on: Mon Feb 5 01:00:30 EST 2001
ya Whatever Subbiah Said is Perfectly True
- From: Param (@ 203.199.236.218)
on: Mon Feb 5 12:44:15 EST 2001
Agreed Raghu-
Congrats to Lataji, Lalgudi, Dr.L.Subramaniam,Dr.Bhanumathi Ramakrishna, who are musicians too. Film Music industry was fortunate those days to see KJ Yesudas and his mighty senior Sirkazhi Dr.Govindarajan awarded with a Padmashri (Sirkazhi got it in 80s when compared to KJ Yesudas who got it when Narayana Menon was in power). Now, Ilayaraja, Kunnakudi are all aspiring for Padma awards!
Govt. is not blind and deaf always. There are protocols which decides things apart from film popularity, for these awards.
Why this haste! Great senior men in various fields are still there without getting it. Awards doesnt assess ones greatness in his profession. Let things happen when it should and Please discuss only Lataji in this forum.
- From: Fan_Of_Vani (@ 203.197.174.40)
on: Sat Feb 10 02:30:32 EST 2001
Obvious Choice . Once shud learn from here, how to eliminate potential and very good singers from the scene and maintaining status number one.
Had she been in politics she would have gone far far above than this
A true Vani Fan who thinks Vani's voice is much more better than Lata's (Of course it is MHO)
- From: x (@ 203.199.130.136)
on: Sun Feb 11 05:55:28 EST 2001
Dear fan of Vani,
Comparing Vani to Lata is like comparing
an ordinary light source to the sun!!!
- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Sat Feb 17 14:06:44 EST 2001
One should read this topic:
http://www.ambalam.com/idhal/special/2001/february/special18_07.html
- From: FlipFlop (@ )
on: Sun Apr 8 09:13:12 EDT 2001
readers,
Its heartening to know that lata has got BharatRatna. And the title lines of this forum (by
TFMRasigan) express regret that the National Award was given for the music of 'Hum dil de chuke sanam'. The music was excellent and did deserve the award. Please realize that there are equally talented (and sometimes more) even in the North
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