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As a Lyrics Writer, Has IR done a good Job?

Topic started by Venkat (@ 65.92.160.216) on Sat Jun 22 20:46:14 EDT 2002.
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Let us try to look at the final result. What is the impact IR has as a Lyrics writer. If he cannot do so well, when there are other Lyrics writer whose job is only doing, why he has to compete with them. Why not just settle down with their lyrics and produce good music.

What is your opinion?

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• From: Udhaya (@ 64.66.207.30) on: Thu Jul 18 17:22:54 EDT 2002
  
  As to the theme of this thread. . .it reminds me of what was said about Aristotle's color theory. People accepted it because of the embarassing amount of time he spent on it, not to mention the man's intellectual stature. But everyone secretly wished that he returned to his domain--philosophy. Or more topically, let's take what was said of SPB's acting, "Every moment he acts is a moment he's not singing".
  
  Of course this subject was explored before in "Ilayaraja the lyric writter" which rests in the archives, spelling mistake intact.
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Thu Jul 18 18:45:06 EDT 2002
  
  udhayA: glad to see you back here. "writter" :-))) . couldn't control laughing out loud.
  
  
• From: VRaman (@ 64.228.226.62) on: Thu Jul 25 05:32:10 EDT 2002
  
  I doubt very much...
  
  :(
  
  V.Raman
  
  
• From: Deepak (@ 146.235.2.37) on: Thu Jul 25 10:22:58 EDT 2002
  
  There was a song in Rajasthan - which sounded really horrible to listen in the cassette. The lyrics were written by IR. But the song did fit with the situation in the movie (sung by Vadivelu).
  
  Udhaya, I tried searching the archives for that thread - I couldn't find it.
  
  
• From: GB (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Jul 25 13:14:06 EDT 2002
  
  guys..do you all know about poomani movie stared by murali prakashraj n deivayani??palani barathi was its lyricist....but even PBarathi said once in an inteview that IR is a great lyricist after an incident during that movie,,,,
  remember the song>>tolmele tolmele poomale poomale
  after IR set the tune for the song..Pbarathi began to pen the lyric,,but he just couldnt fit his wordings tolmele and poomale into the tune...later he asked for IR to change hos tune to fit his words....but instead IR looked the lyrics n said to Pbarathi to use his favourite words twice>>>>so it came out as tolmele tolmel poomale poomale...
  isnt that great??!!!what i'm trying to say is..the genius's art of thinking..his fluency in lyrics.:)
  
  
• From: GB (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Jul 25 13:16:13 EDT 2002
  
  guys..do you all know about poomani movie stared by murali prakashraj n deivayani??palani barathi was its lyricist....but even PBarathi said once in an inteview that IR is a great lyricist after an incident during that movie,,,,
  remember the song>>tolmele tolmele poomale poomale
  after IR set the tune for the song..Pbarathi began to pen the lyric,,but he just couldnt fit his wordings tolmele and poomale into the tune...later he asked IR to change his tune to fit his words....but instead IR looked at the lyrics n said to Pbarathi to use his favourite words twice>>>>so it came out as tolmele tolmele poomale poomale...
  isnt that great??!!!what i'm trying to say is..the genius's art of thinking..his fluency in lyrics.:)
  
  
• From: ST (@ 64.229.220.41) on: Thu Jul 25 15:13:01 EDT 2002
  
  inrelation to the above
  
  "toiletmele toiletmele irukkale irukale"
  
  wouldnt this fit in perfectly with the tune. why do we need IR or PBarathi for this?....
  
  
• From: GB (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Mon Jul 29 01:47:08 EDT 2002
  
  st....
  see thats something which ur mind could reach at the maximum...nothing more literally...
  let others with good sense of manners continue this thread
  
  
• From: pand (@ ) on: Wed Aug 21 09:33:23 EDT 2002
  
  inrelation to the above
  
  "toiletmele toiletmele irukkale irukale"
  
  I guess who ever wrote that had to get it form the song.(saying it twice)..So u again go back to the lyrisists for it..Funny that u use circular logic..ST
  
  
  
• From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Wed Aug 21 14:23:15 EDT 2002
  
  In the song 'idhayam oru koil' ,
  
  'pAdhai onru aana pOdhum, thisaigal vErammA..'
  'unadhu paadhai vEru - enadhu paadhai vEramma..'
  
  anyone care to explain..
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Wed Aug 21 16:55:56 EDT 2002
  
  well, its like this haris..... u go on mount road and ur better half is also on the same mount road.... but u r going from say saidapet to spencer plaza.... but ur wife is going from saidapet to say guindy..... would that be correct ?
  
  
• From: Unmai (@ 24.130.233.129) on: Wed Aug 21 16:58:17 EDT 2002
  
  sabesan!! great work
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Wed Aug 21 17:10:10 EDT 2002
  
  tks Unmai.....
  
  
• From: Madhu (@ 132.205.7.51) on: Wed Aug 21 20:00:35 EDT 2002
  
  Haris
  
  That is good question. If we take a road there are two opposite directions(synonomously can be said "Thisai")
  The better way that lyrics can be written in the following way:
  
  'pAdhai onru aana pOdhum, thisaigal vErammA..'
  'unadhu Thisai vEru - enadhu Thisai vEramma..'
  
  Who is the lyrics writer? Vairamuthu?
  
  Madhu
  
  
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 205.188.192.113) on: Wed Aug 21 21:13:41 EDT 2002
  
  Madhu - it was by IR....
  
  
• From: ramu (@ 24.27.211.180) on: Wed Aug 21 21:19:38 EDT 2002
  
  Who wrote 'Raja Rajaathi rajan in the raja' in Agni Natchathiram
  
  
• From: sunitha (@ 152.163.205.7) on: Wed Aug 21 21:37:24 EDT 2002
  
  valli
  
  
• From: Madhu (@ 132.205.7.51) on: Wed Aug 21 23:46:55 EDT 2002
  
  Sabesan: Tan(Q)
  
  I guess Vairamuthu would not make such mistakes.
  
  Madhu
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74) on: Thu Aug 22 00:17:37 EDT 2002
  
  I think 'unathu paadhai veRu, enathu paadhai veRu' is perfectly allright ... muthal variyila 'paathai ondRu aanapothum'nnu solRathoda muraN 2vathu variyila varuthu - paathai ondRu, But dhisaikaL veRu, So both our paadhais are different !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Thu Aug 22 01:08:21 EDT 2002
  
  To kozhappify more, in addition to NagaS explanation:
  
  In the movie both raadha and mohan will be urugified for love. So the dhisai(urugification for love) is same. But raadha will be urugify for mohan whereas mohan for his deceased love ambika. That is why such muraNaana varigaL. AIMHO.
  
  
• From: Cheenu (@ 203.199.205.25) on: Thu Aug 22 01:50:20 EDT 2002
  
  IR is a better lyrics writer than the one who wrote thus:
  
  1. I have lost eyes my (Kannalene, enadh kannai netrodu kannavaillai)....
  2. I have lost my heart( Ennavele, ennavele, endhan idyatthai tholaithu vitten)
  3. The floweres are lost ( Snngeetha jaadhi mullai kaanavillai)
  
  1. Little animal Little God ( Konjam Mirugam.. Konjam Kadavul)
  2. Half God Half Animal ( Kadavul Paadhi Mirugam Paadhi)
  
  
  What is so great in these "Kaanavillai " and "Half-half" songs? IR is difeinitely better.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Cheenu (@ 203.199.205.25) on: Thu Aug 22 01:50:36 EDT 2002
  
  IR is a better lyrics writer than the one who wrote thus:
  
  1. I have lost eyes my (Kannalene, enadh kannai netrodu kannavaillai)....
  2. I have lost my heart( Ennavele, ennavele, endhan idyatthai tholaithu vitten)
  3. The floweres are lost ( Snngeetha jaadhi mullai kaanavillai)
  
  1. Little animal Little God ( Konjam Mirugam.. Konjam Kadavul)
  2. Half God Half Animal ( Kadavul Paadhi Mirugam Paadhi)
  
  
  What is so great in these "Kaanavillai " and "Half-half" songs? IR is difeinitely better.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Thu Aug 22 03:46:22 EDT 2002
  
  sari sari ippa kobam thanindhadha ?
  
  
• From: geeth (@ 213.189.83.103) on: Thu Aug 22 05:35:31 EDT 2002
  
  'paathai onru thisaigall veru' - kupps explanation makes us understand the situation. just by listnening to the song it will certainly confuse. i was thinking about 'ring road'
  
  
• From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Thu Aug 22 17:27:16 EDT 2002
  
  ok.. cant' resist myself..
  'aalaana oru sEdhi ariyAmalE - alai paayum...' (kannAlanE). should we take this in literal sense?
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Thu Aug 22 18:48:57 EDT 2002
  
  haris: can you please provide the whole stanza (or at least the relevant portions) to provide context? thanks
  
  
• From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Thu Aug 22 19:14:43 EDT 2002
  
  http://newtfmpage.com/tfsa/tamil/songs/bombay.htm#KannaalanaeEnadhu
  
  http://newtfmpage.com/tfsa/english/songs/bombay.htm#KannaalanaeEnadhu
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Thu Aug 22 19:43:31 EDT 2002
  
  thanks haris. i couldn't make head or tail out of the song. (writer) sujAthA once said that it's impossible for a sane person to write a sentence which will make absolutely no sense because our brain somehow finds some patterns and extracts a meaning. well... ;)
  
  
• From: Isai Virumbi (@ 61.11.82.85) on: Sun Aug 25 05:44:38 EDT 2002
  
  IMO, IR is a decent Lyrics Writer. Although he has used the 'maane', 'thene' words in many songs he wrote, still he is a decent Lyricist. His 'Nadodi Thendral' songs are indeed very good(He also wrote the story for that movie).
  and of course 'Nila Adhu Vanathapola' was a good one too.
  
  

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