Topic started by Raghavi Gopalan (@ 61.11.83.93) on Thu Aug 22 03:51:00 EDT 2002.
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Can u please help me in getting the lyrics of the song 'Mahan Gandhi Mahan' in the old film Nam Iruvar sung by MS Rajeswari and I think it is written by R Surdarsan
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- From: Vicky (@ 12.89.77.150)
on: Sat Aug 24 11:52:48 EDT 2002
In fact I have been mentioning this song all long and has been hunting for the song file for a long time....So far no one has responded.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.248)
on: Mon Aug 26 00:37:12 EDT 2002
Raghavi Gopalan/ Vicky-
This may not be strictly accurate, but here's what I can recall:
Mahan Gandhi Mahan
Mahan Gandhi Mahan
Vaazhndha thyaagiyaam nee
bhoologam meedhiley
Mahan Gandhi Mahan
Desiya Seva Guru
Deiveega Pooja Guru
Jaga sevaye purindhaan
iga jothiyaai niraindhaan
Suga vaazhvaye marandhaan
Suya rajya vaazhvai thandhaan
Aaaaaa Mahan Gandhi Mahan
Kai raattaiye aayudham
kadharaadaiye saagidham
Jaya Vandhe Maatharam
Jaya Bharatha Manikkodi
seerongi vaazhgave
Jaya Vandhe Maatharam
Aaaaa Mahan Gandhi Mahan
(What does Saagidham mean? Or is it some other word?)
Song from the film Naam Iruvar- 1947. AVM Productions. Music by R Sudarsanam.The song featured Kumari Kamala, and was sung by MS Rajeswari. (Madurai Sadagopan Rajeswari - she was 14 years old when she sang this song!)Kumari Kamala was then 13 years old. Another MSR-Kumari Kamala-Gandhi song from the same film is 'Karunamoorthi Gandhi Mahatma'
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Mon Aug 26 02:08:14 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
In ‘The Hindu’, every Sunday, one gentleman by name Subramanyam used to write his ‘Malarum Ninaivugal’. Once, he had written that in his school days, he went on stage, participated in a ‘Bharathiyar Song’ competition, sang this song merrily and came back, thinking that every song in ‘Naam Iruvar’ is by Bharatiyar! No wonder, he didn’t get any prize and was even chided by his school teacher for this faux paus!
BTW, who’s the lyricist?
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Mon Aug 26 04:29:33 EDT 2002
SAravanan/CV
Is it Kothamanagalam Subbu ?In the Pre-50s he and Sivan were the ones.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170)
on: Mon Aug 26 06:18:28 EDT 2002
C V/OISG-
I'm not sure about the lyricist. Don't feel that it was Koththamangalam Subbu, though. He was a 'Gemini' man, and would not have ventured out in 1947 to write for AVM. Sivan, perhaps,yes.
I am more inclined to KP Kamatchisundaram, as he was an AVM regular those days. 'Un Kann unnai yemaatrinaal', 'Nandagopalanodu naan aaduveney'- Vaazhkai and 'Enna Ulagamada'-Or Iravu etc were the memorable outpourings of this talent lyricist.
He is more known today for his 'Then unnum vandu'-Amaradeepam.
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Mon Aug 26 07:13:54 EDT 2002
Saravanan
WEre not all the Amaradeepam songs by Thanjai Ramayyadoss?( Since he was the dwibhashi those days! rather a telugu speaking Tamil lyricist)
Kothamangalam was a Gemini man ?I wanted some info on
1. Miss Malini &
2. The song which Thangavelu sings in "Irumbu Thirai" (seergazhi i think).this song digs at Hindi songs import,an AVM fashion those days.Yes,the movie was Vasan s !
3.Who did the hindi score for irumbu thirai (S V Venkatraman scored in tamil?)
- From: kik (@ 207.0.108.170)
on: Tue Aug 27 01:10:56 EDT 2002
OISG - by coincidence I was transferring a bunch of seerkazhi songs onto cd last weekend and came across the thangavelu number you mentioned. It starts dabbaa dabbaa dabbaa and goes on to list how things are going to rack and ruin including films songs which now have hindustani tunes. A few hindustani notes are played on the harmonium before this stanza begins.
Hindi version's music was by C Ramchandra (Paigham). It would be interesting to find out why SVV got the tamil job, especially since vanji kottai vaaliban was a hit in tamil and a flop in hindi (music by CR for both versions) and besides, CR's career had almost vanished by 1960.
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Tue Aug 27 04:09:15 EDT 2002
Thanks kik. Asha was before or after VV Valiban?I think it was by CR.
"Panditha neruvai Pari koduthome " was by Kothamangalam.
So i concluded that "Mahan Gandhi mahan" was by him as well.
Saravanan
Miss Malini - Mr.Sampath awaiting your write up.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.171)
on: Tue Aug 27 09:50:43 EDT 2002
OISG- I don't know much about Miss.Malini, but this is what little I know about her:
Miss Malini- 1947 was a Gemini film based on RK Narayan's famous novel Mr.Sampath. It was a story of a glib talker and a girl whom he lures into the filmworld.
Kothamangalam Subbu himself acted in the role of Mr.Sampath, and most probably wrote the lyrics for all the songs too. I am not sure about the MD-Gemini films were mostly done by S Rajeswara Rao those days-perhaps he did Miss Malini too, or was it Eemani Shankara Shastri, who also was part of Gemini those days?
Among the songs, I seem to remember only MS Sundaribai's 'Andha naalum vandhidaatho', MS Sundarbai-TV Rathnam's 'Baley joru joru baley joru pattana vaasam' and TV Rathnam's classical 'Sri Saraswathi namosthuthe'- all great songs.
Vasan made the same story in Hindi too as Mr.Sampath in 1952. Mothilal acted in the title role. Eemani was the MD. PB Srinivas sang his first film song in this film. Other songs were by Shamshad Begum, Geetha Roy and Jikki.
Cho filmed the same story, in his own style -Mr.Sampath-1972. MD-MSV. Songs include Orey kelvi unaikketpen-MSV, Alangaram pothumadi-TMS-Manorama and Aarambam yaaridam-SPB-PS.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.243)
on: Wed Aug 28 09:12:19 EDT 2002
OISG- one more song in Miss Malini- 'Jagame oru Chithirasaalai'-perhaps by TV Rathnam.
- From: vasu (@ )
on: Thu Nov 4 08:01:30 EST 2004
who is the composer for the song shanthi nilava vendum?
- From: vasu (@ )
on: Thu Nov 4 08:01:41 EST 2004
who is the composer for the song shanthi nilava vendum?
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