Topic started by cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on Thu Jul 24 17:02:31 EDT 1997.
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- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Thu Jul 24 17:08:06 EDT 1997
Dappankuthu songs are man vasanai kalandhavai and indeed have a punch in them.
They are kind of songs which will make us forget our worries and simply enjoy the song.
I could remember the following dappankuthu (super hit )songs:
1)Orampo Orampo rukkumani vandi varuthu
2)Koodaiyile Karuvadu koonthalile pookadu
- Oru thalai raagam
3)Vaa vathyare vootande nee varangatti naa vudamatten
4)Ye Atha Athorama variyaa
5)Podhuvaga en manasu thangam - Murattukalai
6)Poda Poda punnakku podathe thappu kanakku - En Raasavin manasile
7)Ezhainthapalam
8)Mamen oru naal malligappu kodathan
Please add yours to this list:
Let us see how many dappankuththu songs showed up as the best ever:
- From: S. Vadi Velu (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Thu Jul 24 22:10:57 EDT 1997
Is Maamen oru naal a dappankuthu song?
Anyway here are some more:
Kolakolaya munthirika
Va va vathiyarey va
Andhi mazhai megam
Na autokaran autokaran
Rakama kaiyey thattu
Ennadi rakamma
Kaaki satteh pohta machan
Maana mathureh maamara kuyiley
Songs from Sakala Kalavallavan, Devar Magan, many Rajini Kanth movies, many songs by M'sia Vasu, etc.
- From: kavalaiyA!_kElu_orambo! (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Fri Jul 25 03:05:29 EDT 1997
Excuse mE!!!!
Yov cp, you forget your worries when you hear
the songs: Ormabo, koodaiyele karuvAdu, Poda Poda pooke,...
(viral soombra vayasa!)
"h..hi...hia..hu..huuu..huu gluk.gluk..voo..gauuuu"
sogama irukum pOthu inthap pAtaik kEttA -
sivaji tharum expression ithu.
Manvasanai is different from dubbanguththu.
Good manvasanai songs are:
Arisi kuththum akka magalE
yei kuruvi, situk kuruvi
yErAtha malamEla yelanthai pazuthirukku
Therodum enga seerna maduraielE
Ketuk kOdi urumi mElam
Manjak kuzichu alli mudichu
- From: Nammaooruvalen (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Jul 25 04:57:02 EDT 1997
Hello kavalaiyA!_kElu_orambo!
Neer yenne maaru veshathileh vanthaalum umathu :(@ bones.deneb.com) un suyaroobathei kaatuthu!
Neer yenne solla ninaikkeero? Onnum puriyavillei! Ithanal thaano inthe moodu manthiram-ellam!!!
- From: ravi (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Fri Jul 25 09:13:24 EDT 1997
Mr Bones was right. Some of the songs mentioned by cp may be dappanguthu songs but not mannvasanai oriented. Here is my addition to the list;
Raman Andalum - Mullum malarum
Asayai kaathul- Johnny
Vangonna - Badrakali
Hey Attha - Payanangal mudivadhillai
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tj02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jul 25 10:31:30 EDT 1997
Some Dappanguthu songs:
1. Mama Mama Mama Emma Emma Emma
2. Manorama's (LR voice) from Thillaana
Mohanaambaal
3. A TMS drama song from En Thambi
A recent Mann Vaasanai song:
"Potri Paadadi Ponnae" from Thevar Magan
Older Mann Vaasanai Songs:
"Aeri Karayin Maelae Poravalae Pon Mayilae"
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Jul 25 11:15:30 EDT 1997
Yov bones Sathya, nee IR pathos pattu ketturikiya? Andha pattukalai ketta azhuthu azhuthu kerchief ellam nanaichedum. I meant to say that when you listen to some "duppankuththu" songs you mind becomes light and cheerful and you tend to forget the worries at that time. Don't you guys agree to this?
Yenna Sathya(I meant bones), nee sariyana velayattu pullai irukkiye.. idhu kooda puriyalaiye! Ha Ha ha. Unakku duppankuthu songs theriyadhunnu sollu, vettudaren.
Manvasanai songs are those remind which of your land (I could say it is Gramavasanai), that in western terms( country music.)
Are these duppankuthu songs?
To Vadi Velu:
Rakama kaiyey thattu
To Ravi:
Asaiya Kathula thoothu vettu - duppankuthu ?
To Nammooru:
What happened? The person who makes a lot of lists has put an entry in duppankuthu. And, Have you become a fan of bones?
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Jul 25 11:19:23 EDT 1997
Sorry typo:
Yov bones Sathya, nee IR pathos pattu ketturikiya? Andha pattukalai ketta azhuthu azhuthu kerchief ellam nanainchedum. I meant to say that when you listen to some "duppankuththu" songs you mind becomes light and cheerful and you tend to forget the worries at that time. Don't you guys agree to this?
Yenna Sathya(I meant bones), nee sariyana velayattu pullaiya irukkiye.. idhu kooda puriyalaiye! Ha Ha ha. Unakku duppankuthu songs theriyadhunnu sollu, vettudaren.
Manvasanai songs are those remind which of your land (rather Gramavasanai), that is in western terms( country music.)
Are these duppankuthu songs?
To Vadi Velu:
Rakama kaiyey thattu
To Ravi:
Asaiya Kathula thoothu vettu - duppankuthu ?
To Nammooru:
What happened? The person who makes a lot of lists has put not an entry in duppankuthu. And, Have you become a fan of bones?
- From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140)
on: Fri Jul 25 19:16:35 EDT 1997
Gaana karunkuiley - Poonthotta Kaavalkaran
Ulagam Suththudada idamirindu valamga -
Pakka Dappanguthu. Padam Theriyelay.
Thanni Karuthirichu - Ilamai Swinging (Too lazy to thamizhify)
Kadai Veedi kala kalakkum - Amman Koil Kizhaakale
Machi Mannarru manasukulle ninaaru -
(Lakshmi narayanan says this is based on some
ragam! wow!)
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148)
on: Sat Jul 26 00:11:40 EDT 1997
IR is known for composing dappanguthu's in beautiful
ragas. Maybe just for fun..
chinna raasaave - latangi
chalakka chalakku selai - chakravagam (supposed to be
a raga used for devotional type songs)
- From: ravi (@ ww-ty02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Jul 26 01:08:14 EDT 1997
Maman veedu macchu voodu - from Ellam Inba mayam is based on Ra Ra venu (ragam?) - another dappanguthu
- From: N.O. Valen (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Sat Jul 26 01:49:43 EDT 1997
Can we please first define dappangkuthu? There seems to be a lot of confusion here. I think I know what is dappanguthu, so does wveryone who is posting here - but they all seem to differ. Can we have an agreed definition?
Apparum avathu udurehn paarunger!
Dear cp: Naa bones rasigano illayo, yeppervo unga rasigana aayitein! Santhosham thaaneh?
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148)
on: Sat Jul 26 04:57:35 EDT 1997
raa ra venugopala is based on bilahari raagam.
- From: Arvind (@ nhv-ct1-15.ix.netcom.com)
on: Sun Jul 27 20:07:40 EDT 1997
some more dappangutthu
manguyile poongutile -- karagattakaran
vacha parvai theerathadi -- ilamai kolangal
adiya manam nilluna -- neengal keetavai
lalakku dol dappi -- soriyan
ottagatha kattikoo -- gentlemen
kottam patti rotile -- thodi ragam
nee munnale pona -- vanga mappilai vanga
singari sarakku -- kakki chattai
annathai adura -- aboorva sagotharargal
mamanukku mailapore -- velaikkaran
thanni thotti -- sindhu bhairavi
marugo marugo -- vetri vizha
peru vachaalum -- m. m .k .rajan
enjodi manja kuruvi -- vikram
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Mon Jul 28 11:06:42 EDT 1997
To Nammooru:
I feel duppankuthu is a song which has a rhythm that has the same connotation as duppava thattu. It will have a beat throughout the song which will makes you tap your feet. What more can I explain? The best examples for duppankuthu from the above listed songs could be:
1)lolakku dol dappi ma
2)koodaiyile karuvadu koonthalile pookkadu
3)nee munnale pona
4)annathai aadura
etc. etc.
I think that most of Arvind's songs are good duppankuthu songs.
- From: Kitcha (@ 128.227.80.34)
on: Thu Jul 31 18:14:01 EDT 1997
I don't know for sure if I'm right folks but I don't think Arvind has got the meaning of Dappankoothu right. Definitely "Maanguyile", "Maarugo" and "Paeru Vechalum" are not DPthu songs and cannot be listed along with "Laalakku ","Koodayile" etc.
I remember a perfect DPthu by IR in the film "My Dear Marthandan". It goes "Ootalakkadi"
and is a real catchy song.
Similarly the song "Oyillalo" from GUNA is also a good DPthu composition.
The song "Vanjuram Vovval" from CHEMBARUTHI is also a great song, but honestly I don't know if its DPthu.
- From: Arvind (@ 204.245.93.102)
on: Fri Aug 1 09:19:29 EDT 1997
Kitcha
What is dappangutthu?
Any fast song cannot be dappanguththu? It is the beat that makes it dappanguththu.
Manguyile is definitely one, that has the beat.
Same is the case with peru vachaalum.
Some more dappanguththu
Pothuvaaga en manasu thangam --- murattu kaalai
Vanchram vavvalu meenu --- Chembaruththi
santha baazaaru --- Amaran
naan veththalai pooten --- Amaran
saanthu pottu --- Devar magan
Ottalakkadi Pattanakodi --- My dear marthandan
vanthenda paalkaran --- Annamalai
naan autokaran auto kaaran --- Badshah
- From: Ravi (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 10:25:17 EDT 1997
To cp;
You are right. Asaiya kaathula thoodhu from Johnny can not really be classified as a dappanguthu. Perhaps considering the melody of the other songs in that movie made me classify this one as dappanguthu.
PS: pardon my late response.
To Arvind: a small correction to the definition of Dpthu. It is not any beat but mostly the beat that comes from local melams.
- From: Gopi Santhanam (@ neesgate.neesnet.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 12:40:30 EDT 1997
'saamiya vendikkittu ..jaadhagam paathuputten
sammadham sollu pulla' - excellent dappanguthu
Raja with Chitra from kavidhai paadum alaihal
or is it 'kavidhai paada neramillai '
vaa vaa vathiyarae vaa - mundhanai mudichu
'ola ola kudisayilae ' SPB from anand .
'ongammava naan ' from apporva sagotharhal .
song never came out .. but almost along
the same lines of 'annatha aaduraan.
'thaaanandhana kummi kotti'
Rajini movie where he dies comes back and
with cho.
- From: Kitcha (@ dhcp80-34.ee.ufl.edu)
on: Sun Aug 3 18:24:39 EDT 1997
Arvind , I very seriously think you still have not made yourself clear about the definition if DPthu.
Look, I'm not stirring up a dispute with you but I honestly think "Per Vechalum"&"Maanguyile" cannot be classified alongwith "Sanda Bazaar"&"Vethala Potta".
Why doesn't somebody help me out me out with this issue? Any DPthu experts out there?
- From: Kitcha (@ dhcp80-34.ee.ufl.edu)
on: Sun Aug 3 18:25:37 EDT 1997
Arvind , I very seriously think you still have not made yourself clear about the definition oif DPthu.
Look, I'm not stirring up a dispute with you but I honestly think "Per Vechalum"&"Maanguyile" cannot be classified alongwith "Sanda Bazaar"&"Vethala Potta".
Why doesn't somebody help me out me out with this issue? Any DPthu experts out there?
- From: Arvind (@ nhv-ct6-13.ix.netcom.com)
on: Mon Aug 4 20:56:31 EDT 1997
Kitcha
manguyile poonguyile is based on a famous kavadi chinthu, "Aaru mayil yeri vilayadum mugam onru" and that goes with a typical drum beat.
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Aug 4 21:37:39 EDT 1997
I think "aasai adhigam vachchu, manasai adakki
vachcha maamaa" from Marupadiyum is a good
slow dappaanguththu.
- From: Kitcha aaaah........ (@ dhcp80-34.ee.ufl.edu)
on: Tue Aug 5 18:29:00 EDT 1997
I'm really really confused. Everytime I turn into this particular discussion someone manages to come out with one more version of DPthu. PLEASE somebody tell me what is DPthu.
Dear Sathiya Keerthi, Are you sure about "Asai adhigam vechu"? If all songs with catchy beats turn out to be DPthu then all songs with beats could be called so too. I don't for sure if I'm wrong in accusing you,but please give an explanation if you know more about this. I'll be pleased. Thanks.
- From: Kannan Venkateswaran (@ peugeot.instinet.com)
on: Tue Aug 5 18:40:59 EDT 1997
siththadai kattikittu singaaram pannikittu - ?
vaadi en kappakizhangu - alaigal Oyvathillai
inji iduppalagi & Palli koodam pOkaamalE - vaigasi poranthachu
Title song in 'bharathi kannamma'
vandhanam vandhanam - Thalai vaasal
adangoppan mavanE goppan mavanE - ?(T RajEndar)
veetukku veetukku vaasappadi venum -(K. vaasal)
- From: Kitcha (@ dhcp80-34.ee.ufl.edu)
on: Sat Aug 9 15:41:59 EDT 1997
Kannan:
That list of yours is closer home.
Thanks a lot.
- From: Gopi Santhanam (@ neesgate.neesnet.com)
on: Wed Aug 13 12:28:45 EDT 1997
solli adikkiradhil macha sooparadi -
Ulle Veliaye., mano
- From: vasant (@ merak.cc.umanitoba.ca)
on: Sat Aug 23 18:28:45 EDT 1997
Another song in the movie Amaran - sung by actress Srividya - is a good dhappanguttu.
I seem to forget the opening lines of the song .
...bala jhoru
- From: Pagalavan (@ batboy.cisco.com)
on: Sat Aug 23 18:50:22 EDT 1997
vasant :
It is "sandha bajaaru..mama konjam ushaaru..
altaappu raani..akaasavaani.." in Amaran
- From: Shashi (@ 137.197.35.41)
on: Tue Aug 26 11:31:16 EDT 1997
Dapaankoothu has been Raja's forte. He has as mentioned before tried unusual ragas for Dapaankoothu. The example of Machi manaaru... in En Uyir Thozhan is composed in Mayamaalawagowlai. Other dapaankaoothu songs in the same raga are "Vellikizhame, Vellakuvachi, Maligapoova, thalayilvachii...." in Siva & "Kozhi koovum nerathula..." in VannaVanna pookal.
Sometimes it becomes difficult to precisely define daapankoothu and "Chalaku chalaku selai.." in Chakaravagam IMO is not dapaankoothu.
Only Raja could give a daapankoothu with a vein of pathos. The song is "Olai Olai kudisaiyila, konchi konchi vilayaaduvom..." in Anand & "Thaangaliye aathaa on solluthaan, thaangiputen ippo naan kalluthaan..." in Nadigan.
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9)
on: Tue Aug 26 23:11:44 EDT 1997
Shashi
I saw 'nadigan' (Sathyaraj-Khushbu) atleast 4 times and I do not remember seeing such a song. I think you are mistaken.
- From: Shashi (@ 137.197.35.41)
on: Thu Aug 28 11:39:45 EDT 1997
Arvind
You may be right. I think "Thaangaliye aathaa on solluthaan..." may not be in Nadigan. However, it was during the time when a new Satyaraj's movie was being released every month. I am quite sure that this movie had Satyaraj, Bhanupriya, Manorama etc. The directed was by Pratap Pothen. Other songs in this movie are
1. Karpulla kaaLaiya katti potta paatiye...an excellent song by SPB.
2. Sivappana chinna pappa, silai pole minuthappa... a duet by SPB & SJ-also a good song.
With this additional information can anybody recall the name of this movie?
- From: Pags (@ pkrishna-pc.cisco.com)
on: Thu Aug 28 14:04:18 EDT 1997
sashi
May be you are refering to "Jeeva"
- From: Arvind (@ 204.245.93.102)
on: Thu Aug 28 14:44:41 EDT 1997
I think that movie is Pangaali
- From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140)
on: Thu Aug 28 17:41:21 EDT 1997
Uh Uh.. It is not Pangali. It is Magudam.
This also had another good song.
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9)
on: Thu Aug 28 22:07:52 EDT 1997
Must be magudam. The other good song in magudam is 'chinnak kaNNaa punnagai mannaa' - Did we list this in the Kannan list?
- From: Shashi (@ 137.197.35.41)
on: Fri Aug 29 00:43:43 EDT 1997
Thats it! I am sure its magudam. Yes I have all the 6 songs in this movie and all of them are different and great. Actually, Hindu gave a great review for the songs when this movie was released.
Thanks, Pags, Gokul and Arvind.
More dappankoothu with innovations:
1. Chutti chutti un vaya koncham suruti koLLadi....in Chinnagownder. The use of Ghatam as an alternative rythm instrument to dholak in the first stanza is excellent.
2. Yenna manam ulla poNNunu maruthaiyile ketaanga.... in Chinna pasanga naanga. A slow and engrossing dapaankoothu with lots of "mann vaasanai".
3. Kottu kaLi kottu naayanam ketkuthu vaatuthu.... in a Prabhu movie which I dont remember. Again, this is composed in Mayamalawagowlai ragam same as that of Macchi manaaru... Kottu kaLi... is a riot of a song!
4. Motta maadi Motta maadi...in Anjali is a very beautifully modified dapaankoothu. If you listen carefully the song starts with a beat on the drums which is a modified version of Annathey aadaraar. This is essentially a sophisticated version of our local dapaankoothu. However, the song takes a very different shade as it proceeds and is hard to see the dapaankoothu skeleton within its mordern orchestrated body.
- From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140)
on: Fri Aug 29 19:59:24 EDT 1997
Shashi:
Hey I am on a roll..
Kottu Kalli Kottum Nayanam kekkudu vaalibam.. . is from Kumbakarai Thangaiyah..
It also had another nice song.
- From: Pags (@ batboy.cisco.com)
on: Fri Aug 29 22:45:11 EDT 1997
Gokul
The other good song in Kumabakkarai Thangaiyaa is
:"paattu unne izhukkudhaa..
adha kEttu nenjam mayangudhaa.." (SPB/SJ)
- From: Pags (@ batboy.cisco.com)
on: Sat Aug 30 01:53:32 EDT 1997
sashi
can we add "ooru vittu orru vandhu..." (karagaattak kaaran) as a good dappanguththu also..?
- From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu)
on: Sat Aug 30 04:36:43 EDT 1997
Gokul: kottukaLi kottu is from chinnavar. Another good song from the same movie is 'anthiyila vaanam'.
One more good song from kumbakkarai is 'thenRal kaaRRE'.
- From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu)
on: Sat Aug 30 04:57:20 EDT 1997
oththa ruvaayum thaarEn - nattuppura paatu.
- From: Sujatha (@ colgw.bcbs-ga.com)
on: Wed Sep 24 16:17:14 EDT 1997
To Kitcha aaaah....
Just now I came in to this topic and read all the responses. While reading I felt the same way as you.
Enna? Asai athigam vetchu - Marupadiyum, Peru vechalum - MMKR Pattu rendum Dappangutha? No way.
Here is some Dpthu in my view
Antha kalatthu pattu
Nanga pudhusa kattikitta jodithanunga, nalla - ?
Intha kallathu pattu
Nee kattum selai madippile nan kazhangi ponendi - ?
- From: Sujatha (@ colgw.bcbs-ga.com)
on: Wed Sep 24 17:28:08 EDT 1997
Oops, there is an error.
The second song should be
'Nee kattum selai madippile nan kasangi ponendi'
- From: Sujatha (@ colgw.bcbs-ga.com)
on: Thu Sep 25 12:22:00 EDT 1997
To the list:
Manamadhurai kundumaliyai vadamal nan thalayil - Mettuk kudi
Kudalooru kundumali, vada pudikka vantha valli - ?
Rasaman rasanukku rasiyulla kaiyirukku - Poovarasan
Vadi vethala pakku vankitharen neeyum potukko - Veera
Yee kutti munale nee pinale nan vanthakka, etho - Indhu
Elantha payam elantha payam, sekka sivantha payam - ?
- From: Anand (@ 129.252.26.138)
on: Tue Nov 11 01:33:19 EST 1997
I guess evryone left to count one song from Padmashree's film
Namma singaari sarakku nalla saraku,
summa gummunnu yeruthu kicku irukku
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